12 Die in JHB

One good statement he made if some1 pulls a gun on a cop the officer got the right to shoot the person. But that will also probably change later on if some cop kills some1 by accident with all the stress the police have
 
DigitalSoldier said:
One good statement he made if some1 pulls a gun on a cop the officer got the right to shoot the person. But that will also probably change later on if some cop kills some1 by accident with all the stress the police have
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No the dumbass will later say he was again misinterpreted and meant that the person deserves to be shot - not that they should actually be shot. Such an incompetent idiot who can't communicate effectively, stand by his statements and accept responsibility for it, really it pisses me off when people's lives are at risk. What a coward
 
DigitalSoldier said:
One good statement he made if some1 pulls a gun on a cop the officer got the right to shoot the person. But that will also probably change later on if some cop kills some1 by accident with all the stress the police have
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Quite frankly, I can understand that statement. It may not be right, or propper, but these guys need to go to hell! (the robbers that is). Todays morning paper (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...2326499C206963), the 12 robbers would have walked away with about 2K each after they split the money they stole... 4 Cops dead, over a lousy 2K? R500 per life? Is that wat a cop is worth these days? Times like this that I *really* wish we still had the death penalty

One of my best friends are a cop, and yeah. This really leaves me hurt and wondering, and sick in my stumach every time I think about it.
 
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Meanwhile, Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula toned down earlier comments that police would kill anyone who pointed a gun at them.
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Shame this guy is so confused...
 
Tassidar said:
Personally, I don't know how the government can overcome this problem - they still have a limited budget, and even if there was not corruption, there still wouldn't be enough money.
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I think there is enough money in South Africa to fund a decent police force and get crime down to reasonable levels. Consider for example that our "police per capita" is already pretty high: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pol_percap-crime-police-per-capita --- our crime rates are higher than basically all countries with lower "police per capita" (and this is in spite of labour in South Africa being quite expensive, which of course is also a huge part of the problem in itself - not just because it means we can't afford more police, but also because it's one of the major causes of our high unemployment rate, which feeds crime).

The main problem is that rampant and inreasing corruption, lack of skills (at all levels), poor training and an apathetic and arrogant culture (all of these things coming ALL THE WAY from the top [cf. Nqakula's "stop whinging, whities" attitude or Selebi's "protect malls? how ridiculous" response to daily mall heists], and hence not being tackled and becoming worse) are all eating away at the effectiveness of our police force. We can keep throwing more and more money at the police force but at the end of the day if corruption remains endemic you're just basically giving more money to criminals and getting less and less in return (and worse, those criminals are within the justice system). (I personally know people who have been robbed by cops, and we also read in the news of e.g. cops who hire their guns out to hijackers - what sort of demented culture is this?)

Another factor to consider is the huge amount already spent by our economy on privatised security; if we had an effective police force, there wouldn't be as much of a need, and hence, there is a lot more money still "available" (in principle) that could be spent on the police force. In other words, the money is already there, it's just not being spent/used properly and efficiently.
 
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tibby.dude said:
They walked into an ambush ... the cops arrested one of the gangster and he led them to the house but neglected to mention that there were 20 of buddies waiting for them under the beds and in the ceiling.

These chaps had military training ... they did not stand a chance :(.
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My comments are not meant to criticize the KIA police officers .

Why not cordon off the house in which the robbers were in and wait for the Task Force to enter the house ?

Sadly all that will happen to the persons arrested is that they will get bail , escape and do again what they did :mad:
 
RompelStompel said:
Why not cordon off the house in which the robbers were in and wait for the Task Force to enter the house ?
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They probably didn't know. These guys chase armed robbers every other day, and most of the time they don't turn out to be massive ambushes; you can't call in the Task Force every time, and there's no way of really knowing which ones are going to turn out to be traps with huge gangs of heavily armed men. Our police officers have to take huge risks all the time.
 
Meanwhile, Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula toned down earlier comments that police would kill anyone who pointed a gun at them.
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Here he goes again. Seriously this retard needs to be fired, amazing how everytime he opens his mouth and says something, he later changes his tune to save his own ass.
 
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