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A 1Time plane had an aborted takeoff after an engine failure at the OR Tambo airport on Sunday, the airline said.

“During the take off roll the left hand engine lost power and the captain successfully aborted the take off without incident,” 1Time CEO Rodney James said in a statement.

He said while five of the 128 passengers aboard the plane during the incident were under observation on, but there were no serious injuries.

Once the problem with the engine was reported to the control tower, the captain parked the aircraft.

“The fire department was deployed and on arrival at the aircraft reported smoke coming from the left hand engine.”

An emergency evacuation was then carried out.

“There was no external fire but there was smoke coming out of the engine exhaust due to the engine failure.

“Initial visual investigations indicate possible foreign object damage as the cause of the engine failure.”

A spare aircraft was called in to fly the stranded passengers to their destination. - Sapa
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Comment by passenger on this flight :

I was on this horrific flight yesterday. Just before lifting off into the air we all heard a loud burst and smelled something burning. A gentleman sitting at the back saw foam coming out of the engine’s side as it already caught fire. If it was only smoke coming out of the engine, the emergency foam would not have come out. It only opens up when there is a fire. The plane got to an almost immediate stop and we were told to get off the plane immediately but calmly. All was going well until one of the flight attendants, Abba, started to panic and screamed at everybody that we only had 90 seconds to get off the plane and that the plane was on fire. A hysterical chaos broke out and passengers started to cry, shouting at one another and started pushing and shoving people aside to get out at the front as the emergency doors in the middle could not open. As I got to the front I was shoved down the slide by the flight attendant and landed on an elderly that was already injured. In the process we we’re also soaked with water and foam coming down the slide as the firefighters tried to stop the flames from spreading and to cool down the plane. We were told to run away from the plain into the field as they were working on it. The injuries were much worse than they are trying to portray it to the media and they handled it terrible unprofessionally during and afterwards. There were many people that needed and got trauma counseling at the air port. I am hugely disappointed in the way they are trying to make this off as nothing. Last week one of my husband’s colleagues also had a very bad experience with 1Time as the plane’s wheels didn’t want to go in and they needed to turn around just to make a bad landing and delayed their flight with several hours. I really hope that the truth will come out very soon and that someone will take this serious and investigate 1Time. We could have lost our lives 5 seconds later if that plane lifted into the air and they make it off as a minor incident. Never will I fly with them again for the reason that they aren’t truthful and secondly for the fact that there were just too many incidents over the past few month that they are sweeping under the carpet.
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http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/1time-plane-suffers-engine-failure-1.690198

I think it is high time for 1Time to start upgrading its fleet to newer planes. These MD planes are flippen ancient. Wonder if you get newly manufactured parts for these engines still even. Most likely all refurbed nowadays.

I have flown with them many times....but now I am not so sure if I want to any more. :erm:
 
Does this only happen to old planes?

New planes don't crash or have any issues?

How many flights do they have a year and how many problems have they had i wonder? Seems like you are blowing this way out of proportion. Engine on an aircraft went kaboom and now the whole airline sucks? Not sure i missed loads and loads of other problems.
 
killadoob said:
Does this only happen to old planes?

New planes don't crash or have any issues?

How many flights do they have a year and how many problems have they had i wonder? Seems like you are blowing this way out of proportion. Engine on an aircraft went kaboom and now the whole airline sucks? Not sure i missed loads and loads of other problems.
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Not saying the airline sucks. Just saying in general those planes are due to be replaced. I have always had good service from 1Time. But the fact remains that those aircraft is ancient and they should start looking at replacing them. They cant be very fuel efficient either.
 
So all the injuries and drama could have been avoided if the dumbass flight attendant didn't freak out? Going by that passenger's comment.
 
Maddmatt said:
So all the injuries and drama could have been avoided if the dumbass flight attendant didn't freak out? Going by that passenger's comment.
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Doubt it. Only one emergency exit was opened due to the fact that the others were to close to the engine that failed and they were worried that flames might cause more injuries. So there was many people trying to get out of the one exit....and the fact that the flight attendant freaked out and caused a bigger panic did not help the situation. The majority of the injuries were caused when the people landed on the ground after sliding off the slidy thing.
 
I can just imagine the chaos when a flight attend goes nuts and freaks out. Every man for himself :eek:

OMFG the plane is on fire, we are all gonna in 90 seconds or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
IMHO...as planes or equipment get older they cost more money to service and repair and this is not profitable for a LOW COST airlines, so they cut corners.

also I suspect their technical staff r not up to scratch either.
 
I think that passenger is making up a lot of that stuff. They wouldn't have taxied and parked the aircraft again if it was on fire. They'd all have evacuated right there on the runway.
 
c10n3d_0r6 said:
I think that passenger is making up a lot of that stuff. They wouldn't have taxied and parked the aircraft again if it was on fire. They'd all have evacuated right there on the runway.
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Where does it mention that they taxied?

The pilot pulled up on the taxi apron and stopped. Parked is not the correct word - unless he bailed
 
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ocleroux said:
I think it is high time for 1Time to start upgrading its fleet to newer planes. These MD planes are flippen ancient. Wonder if you get newly manufactured parts for these engines still even. Most likely all refurbed nowadays.

I have flown with them many times....but now I am not so sure if I want to any more. :erm:
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Storm in a teacup. I actually know the crew on that particular flight VERY well and they did everything by the book. I wouldn't trust a member of the public's perception on air safety, because quite frankly, they dont have a clue how things work..

1 : the crew are specifically trained to "shout" at passengers to get them moving. Its not a panic response, its an assertive response. Abba is an extremely competent In Charge Flight Attendant, and has been in the industry for years. Her job was to get the passengers off the plane using whatever means necessary, not to be "polite". Sometimes the only way to get people to respond is to help them along by behaving more assertively.

2 : the foam was part of the fire suppression system. It does not necessarily go off automatically. There is a fire handle on the flight deck that the flight crew can pull to activate it. If the flight deck suspect the engine is too hot and could be on fire, they will pull the handle regardless of the presence of a fire or not. The temp gauge was hot, they pulled the handle.

3 : if they had gotten airborne, the plane would NOT have crashed. ALL airplanes have to be able to sustain a loss of an engine past the commit speed (V1) on that given day. If they were past V1, they would have shut the engine down, continued the takeoff, and returned to the airfield and landed. The plane is certified to do exactly this, and the pilots practice engine outs on take offs multiple times a year during their proficiency checks (SIM Rides).

4 : Age has very little correlation to safety in aviation. Its all about maintenance. 1times planes' are all maintained by Safair (which they own), the same people that maintained Comair's fleet for years without major incident. They hold FAA (DV5Y819M), EASA (EASA 145.0122) and RSACAA (AMO006) certifications for the MD80 series aircraft. As a matter of interest, the average age of 1time's fleet is LESS than Comair (who have some of the earliest 737-300s still flying, safely at that).

5 : Airlines are extremely heavily regulated in this country. They are audited frequently by the CAA, and its very difficult to cut corners. They would have lost their AOC (Airline Operating Certificate) during their last audit if there was anything to substantiate that claim that they are cutting corners (just like what happened to Nationwide - they lost their AOC the day after they had their engine "fall off" incident).

6 : The aircrew training is highly regarded in South Africa. Just ask SAA - they have just hired quite a few of the 1time pilots...

Finally, the MD80 has an impressive safety record. Things go wrong all the time on every airplane out there. I think the general public would be shocked to know how many items are inop on a plane on any given day on ALL airplanes at all airlines. Thats why the airplanes have such high redundancy built in to the design. If you dont believe me - go look at the incident sheet on the CAA website and look what happens every year in South African airspace that goes largely unreported : engine failures, decompression, blown tyres, gear failures etc etc. You will see that all the airlines have their fair share of problems, including SAA with the young fleet.
 
Ninja'd said:
Is it still considered a flight if it never took off?
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No, but umm ^_^ wow, what would you like to call it? lol, everyone knows what the passenger is talking about - an 'aeroplane flight' is more of a general term anyway, which describes the whole process from boarding to getting off the plane at your destination
 
Nothing wrong with flying 1Time - they get us places for half what we'd normally be paying if business had of been left to the monopolies........ & with less standing around waiting....,almost everytime i HAVE to fly SAA theres some delay or wait or cockup somewhere.
 
Tun@ said:
Nothing wrong with flying 1Time - they get us places for half what we'd normally be paying if business had of been left to the monopolies........ & with less standing around waiting....,almost everytime i HAVE to fly SAA theres some delay or wait or cockup somewhere.
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Every airline that I have flown on has had some sort of delay somewhere. In my experience, the cheaper the airline the worse they treat you when there is a delay.

I have never flown 1Time. Or Mango.
 
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