2 anti virus working together

kaisterkai

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Good day

how do you make 2 anti virus work together?

Because I'm using MSE.. but I think there is a virus on my computer that MSE isn't picking up.. so I want to know whether I can add another anti virus.. (probably avast.. free edition..)

Can someone help me with this?

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to put it straight: you cant. each anti virus has a database containing the signitures of the known virus's. so if you have two anti virus, each will detect the other ones database as a virus, resulting in conflict issues
 

TheBossMan

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LOOOOOOOOOOL EPIC FAIL!!!! :D

you will have PEBCAK errors if try and run more than one anti-virus.
 

kaisterkai

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But I heard there is a method doing that.. like you make the one master and the other slave or something like that..
 

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But I heard there is a method doing that.. like you make the one master and the other slave or something like that..

The only way is to install your AV with it's "Real Time" scanner running. This would be your default AV.

Install the 2nd AV and make sure that the real time scanner is not activate or even better, ensure that it is not loaded in your startup items. This was explained to you how to do or which software to use as part of your 1001 questions you seem to post, if I remember correctly?

If you run the second AV as your 2nd opinion, disable your real time scanner on your default AV. Just remember to enable your default av's real time scanner once you are finished.

Hope it helps
:)
 

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The only way is to install your AV with it's "Real Time" scanner running. This would be your default AV.

Install the 2nd AV and make sure that the real time scanner is not activate or even better, ensure that it is not loaded in your startup items. This was explained to you how to do or which software to use as part of your 1001 questions you seem to post, if I remember correctly?

If you run the second AV as your 2nd opinion, disable your real time scanner on your default AV. Just remember to enable your default av's real time scanner once you are finished.

Hope it helps
:)

I have M$ Essentials, AVG free and Malwarebytes as well as AddAware and SuperAntiSpywhere all active at the same time. No issues or problems whatsoever apart from the usual Dogfight about who is first to delete the virus/worm.

Only the E-mail is a concern as only one active scanner on e-mail must be functioning.
 

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to put it straight: you cant. each anti virus has a database containing the signitures of the known virus's. so if you have two anti virus, each will detect the other ones database as a virus, resulting in conflict issues

what an utter load of ****
 

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Im running Win7 with MSE, Avira Free and no complaints my side. Both are running in real time too, never picked up each others database as potential threats..... What does suck is that Avira will detect a viri before MSE :( Any possible reason for this?
 

kaisterkai

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So there is no need for the changing? I can Have two Anti viruses at the same time.. mm..

I have Avast now..I just took out MSE, because it didn't want to scan.. but shall I install it together?
 

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Im running Win7 with MSE, Avira Free and no complaints my side. Both are running in real time too, never picked up each others database as potential threats..... What does suck is that Avira will detect a viri before MSE :( Any possible reason for this?

Well with me I find that when AVG shows a virus found and you "click" on remove a message comes that says..."File not found" or it relates to a virus "found" in the MSE vault! MSE works in the background quietly! Does not have to brag!
 

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I use NOD32 and Microsoft Security Essentials together - works like a charm.
 

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Its really not a good thing to do. Antivirus already hook into a lot of events and file handlers, and IO handlers to do their scanning. Which puts overhead on your system.

In fact, my initial thoughts, and what explains saixbot's problem - is that windows prolly only allow one of them to attach to the IO events and data at one time. So at best you're running one effective AV, and one sitting looking pretty (probably depending on who attached to the hooks, IO devices and so on first)
 

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Re: 2-anti-virus-working-together

I know you are facing the problem regarding to the viruses.
I want to suggest you to use the Quick Heal antivirus not Avast because in Avast there is one problem regarding to the future installation of the antivirus.

Avast can be install alone in the system it won't give you the permission to install the another anti virus.

You can install 2 antivirus at a time but just have to see the competibility of the databases

There is also these two anti viruses takes more process to load so your boot time is also increases.
Now this is your choice that what you have to install is 1 is preferable or 2 it is totally depends on you?
 

kaisterkai

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I see...

um this quick heal.. is that a program that you install? or is it just there? because i know there is an anti virus... almost like a portable one.. and you can have it on your USB and all you must do is just click on it and then it scans and delete..

but I don't know ... anyway..
 

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to put it straight: you cant. each anti virus has a database containing the signitures of the known virus's. so if you have two anti virus, each will detect the other ones database as a virus, resulting in conflict issues

Untrue.
 

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it works, but i wont recommend it, here at work we run Symantec Endpoint, but our previous anti virus forefront is stil on a lot of the computers, its works fine, but its dreadfully slow, each antivirus tires to scan each file when putting in a cd or memory stick....., and sometimes the one antivirus detects a virus and quarantines the virus, and then the other antivirus detecs the virus in the quarantine and tries to clean it, then the other anti virus detects tampering in its quarantines files, so you can guess what happens here....... its really dreadful, some of these pc's even has trend micro installed as well, that 3 anti viruses running together, but really, get yourself only Nod32, its the best and does not kill your system resources
 

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I use AVG and Threatfire and Malwarebytes, no problems at all
 

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to put it straight: you cant. each anti virus has a database containing the signitures of the known virus's. so if you have two anti virus, each will detect the other ones database as a virus, resulting in conflict issues

Your completely right, but this is only if the AV doens't have its sig files encrypted. I've got Panda Internet Security and so everything else picks up the Panda sig file (which is not encrypted) andn tries to delete it which will result in Panda attacking them in return thinking it's a virus that is trying to remove its sig. Where you'd get even more problems is if the AVs have behavioural analysis. They'd think that the other AV is behaving suspiciously and try and delete it, which once again results in the behaviour of self preservation I descibed above.

The other thing one has to consider is that AV are by their nature resource hogs, so running two or more is a waste of resources. I know that there are AVs that combine multiple scannners and sigs from diff companies, but since these apps are running more than one scanner they can be very resource hungry. Another option is to use the Cloud. Panda has a Free app called Cloud Antvirus that has a sig file compiled from various sources stored in the Cloud, so you get the detection of a AV compilation, but you wanna be connected for it to function properly, it does have the usual sig cache; but for the 'cloud scanning' to work you want a always on connection. (or when you're doing dodgy things)
 
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