why do you call me that brad?

just because i think chelsea have a chance of winning the league?

im fully united but i dont have blinkers on like the rest of the arsenal supporters

i can see arsenal wont finish 2nd and i can see united will come under pressure for the title if chelsea beat them

its actually common sense i use and im not blinded

if you guys still think for one second arsenal will win the league then your blinded, if you think they will come second you even more blinded

supporting a team does not mean i have to say united will win no matter what when i see chelsea have a great chance :)

arsenal however will finish 3rd or 4th and not win a single trophy :)

cannot wait for the blinded one's to realise this :)

so your saying just because i think there is a chance united might lose the title to chelsea im a fair weather supporter?


geek arsenal cannot score without adebayor alot of the time
they dont have another out and out striker, if you dont believe this then fine but i do

o yes wenger has come out and said arsenal will win all 3 liverpool games :)

hahaha bad move wenger now you wont win one

Fair comments if you ask me :)
 
Cesc Fabregas has reopened the row over Martin Taylor's foul on stricken Arsenal striker Eduardo, insisting the Birmingham defender should take the blame for the incident.

Eduardo suffered a sickening leg break after Taylor's two-footed tackle but while the Blues camp has rallied around Taylor, who was sent off for the challenge, Fabregas believes the defender is culpable.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger initially suggested Taylor should face a life ban for the foul but swiftly retracted his comments.

'Of course I blame him,' said Fabregas.

'He did it and he knows why he did it. Of course he is not going to say he did it on purpose, he will never say that.

'But a very good player is injured for a year and the player who committed the tackle is suspended for three little games. It is very, very unfair.'
Cover story on soccernet


What a load of bollocks.
 
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Stop Talking About Potential, Start Winning
Let's be honest, the league has been spunked, and in truly gutless fashion. The gaping holes of a wafer-thin squad are as plain to see as Wenger's comfort in a non-pressure, no-expectation job.

In reality, the league was probably lost in the home-draw against Villa following the Birmingham debacle, but draws against the pish of Wigan and Boro have only compunded what was already obvious. It's hard to imagine what we're going to get out of the fixtures about to come and where we'll end up in the table in May (Chavski are only three points behind with a game in hand now).

I feel a bit conned by the whole 'my boys will come of age and win something big' after three seasons of mediocrity, when it's as clear now as it was then that too many of them don't look up to it.

Our defence has an average height of 5ft and no decent cover, our midfield has no depth when someone is out through injury or suspension, while players like Eboue and Gilberto have become hated figures. And our strikeforce is inexperienced and lacking a decent cutting edge (which, admittedly, it did seem like we were starting to get from Eduardo before his leg snapped in two). Also, the likes of Hoyte, Denilson, Traore & Co. have failed to show any signs of growth from last season or the season before. Strangely enough, after months of critiscm, only Walcott from the pool of 'youngsters' looks to be showing signs of promise of late, and him along with Flamini can be considered success stories of this season. Fabregas and Adebayor have received the most plaudits, but in actuality, in too many games lately have they simply been absent or damnright wasteful.

Already Wenger is saying he won't be making any major signings in the summer, and no doubt, when we end up empty-handed again this season, he'll get on his high-horse about the morality of sport and how winning things shouldn't be the be all, and end all!

For all the prettiness of the football on a good day, would us fans not prefer some success and trophies? And would you not like to see some major names come on board rather than another teenage 'wonder kid' who doesn't quite make it after all, and ends up on loan at Birmingham before being sold off to a lower-flight club? The kind of signing that was damn exciting back in the days when Wenger wasn't afraid to sign experience and class, such as when we stole Campbell or signed Henry or Pires or even Wiltord and Reyes.

So I'd like to ask youse fellow Gooners a hypothetical question: right now, considering how inept we've been challenging the top sides since Wenger dismantled the Invicibles all too bloody quickly, would you be willing to trade Wenger in for the efficient, brash and tremendously succesful Mourinho model, even if the fancy-dan football was to stop?

I have to be honest - personally, I would. If only for league consistency and real success in Europe. Because Wenger's European record of zero wins, as well as three league titles in nearly 12 years simply ain't the record of a true 'winner', and his comfort in the hot seat has become as frustrating as our challenging on the trophy front.

I don't care if it's pretty and fast 'n flowing... I don't care if it's built on shirt buttons and the shareholders pockets get filled... I want to celebrate something in May, not listen to excuses and more promises about the team's potential being realised next year!
Bully


...It pains me to say it, but the title is all but Man Utd's. They showed this weekend why they are going to be the champions again and my Gunners are not (at least this year). I know, I know, there are a lot of games
left to be played, but United played horribly and still managed to get three points. You simply cannot draw against teams like Birmingham, Wigan and Boro (and earlier in the year, Newcastle) and expect to be champs at the end when your rivals are getting wins by comfortable margins.

All the credit to United, they do what they have to do. It kills me to say it, but it looks like it will be Man U again this year. I just hope we can hold off Chelsea for second...
Michael Cairns


...If Arsene Wenger believes this current Arsenal side does not need additions in the summer, then he is either lying or perhaps does not want to acknowledge just how much he has lost the plot.

Since the Invincibles of 2004, the Arsenal have gone steadily backwards. We played some nice stuff in 05, but were very fortunate to win the FA Cup at Man U's expense and after some truly dire performances in 06 and last season can count ourselves very lucky to finish fourth on each occasion, despite reaching the European Cup final.

We're now so predictable, it's no surprise that teams know how to snuff Arsenal's creativity, bully them and get ready for the inevitable slide rule pass, the side pass 14 yards out, the overlap by full backs and the offside appeals.

Some of the squad is unbelievably awful. Senderos and Diaby should never be allowed to buy an Arsenal shirt, let alone wear one and none of Hoyte, Gilberto, Bendtner, Denilson, Song, Fabianski or Walcott are good enough and Rosicky has been a massive disappointment.

The side are too airyfairy, too predictable and better suited to the European game than the Premiership, which is why we'll win nothing this season and be put out of Europe by Liverpool.

And although this will be treated as sacrilege by a lot of Arsenal fans, if Wenger can't see it, perhaps it's time for him to go, as his best days are clearly long gone
Gary Westfallen
www.football365.com



Some Arsenal fans have had enough it seems...
 
why do you call me that brad?

just because i think chelsea have a chance of winning the league?

im fully united but i dont have blinkers on like the rest of the arsenal supporters

i can see arsenal wont finish 2nd and i can see united will come under pressure for the title if chelsea beat them

its actually common sense i use and im not blinded

if you guys still think for one second arsenal will win the league then your blinded, if you think they will come second you even more blinded

supporting a team does not mean i have to say united will win no matter what when i see chelsea have a great chance :)

arsenal however will finish 3rd or 4th and not win a single trophy :)

cannot wait for the blinded one's to realise this :)

so your saying just because i think there is a chance united might lose the title to chelsea im a fair weather supporter?


geek arsenal cannot score without adebayor alot of the time
they dont have another out and out striker, if you dont believe this then fine but i do

o yes wenger has come out and said arsenal will win all 3 liverpool games :)

hahaha bad move wenger now you wont win one

No, it's cos you told everyone so on this board... that goes for F1 and any other sport you seem to put your mind to killa ;)
So, for the record, who do you support Killa?
 
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man united which i have done since i started watching soccer

i dont support them like you oke support teams, i check what could happen and sometimes i hope they lose so it makes things interesting

just like i hope chelsea beat arsenal and united drop points to bolton

give the league some spice when united chelsea clash

now if this does not make me supporter than im not

as much as i want united to win i also want to see an interesting league

so yea thats how i support my team :)

in regards towards to formula1

kimi but thats only because i dont have a new oke to support since senna died

so in f1 im on the fence yes cause i dont really care who wins as long its not hamilton :)
 
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yea i still dont get it

i thought at the beginning of the season newcastle would a front runner because of big sam

so i still dont get what your saying?
 
one man team geek did you even watch the game?

rooney and ronaldo together not just ronaldo

rooney did all the hard work and put in a pin point cross for ronaldo who tapped home

rooney is awesome along with ronaldo and alex ferguson is the reason we played so poor, carrick and hargreaves need to start

shame im guessing adebayor aint having a good game :) game over if they dont win today

Ferguson is an idiot putting Ronaldo up front. Everybody knows Ronaldo needs to be on the wing, so that he has the ball and not have to wait for it.

The only reason it aint is cos they have conceded one loss the whole season.

And yet Arsenal have drawn more games than most teams I know. A draw is as good as a loss pal. You drew 10. That's 20 points dropped(equivalent to 6 losses and a draw). We drew 4(2 losses and 1 draw). That's 8 points dropped. Go figure. You can brag all you like about one loss, yet you are still second on the log. You know why? Cos Man United won more games than Arsenal. That's why.

When we win our game in hand, we will go 3 points clear, but with our superior goal difference, it is effectively 4 points. The upcoming weekend could very well determine Arsenal's fate this season in the EPL. I have a feeling Chelsea will at least draw.
 
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And yet Arsenal have drawn more games than most teams I know. A draw is as good as a loss pal. You drew 10. That's 20 points dropped(equivalent to 6 losses and a draw). We drew 4. That's 8 points dropped. Go figure. You can brag all you like about one loss, yet you are still second on the log. You know why? Cos Man United won more games than Arsenal. That's why.

When we win our game in hand, we will go 3 points clear, but with our superior goal difference, it is effectively 4 points. The upcoming weekend could very well determine Arsenal's fate this season in the EPL. I have a feeling Chelsea will at least draw.[/QUOTE]


yup merc you got it spot on man

arsenal will be out of the race come sunday because arsenal will never ever get anything against chelsea

chelsea will beat arsenal on sunday, they need to because if they dont they have no hope of winning the league

again brad im just stating a fact i dont support chelsea
 
The upcoming weekend could very well determine Arsenal's fate this season in the EPL. I have a feeling Chelsea will at least draw.

Yip.

We still play Arsenal and Liverpool at home and Chelsea away. I'd say 5 points out of those three games and the title is ours.
 
well hj if united draw with arsenal and liverpool and lose to chelsea the title is chelsea's hey

united will need to dig very deep and i cannot wait for the finale :)

big games on sunday hey :)

arsenal chelsea
united liverpool

i was also looking at it

if liverpool get really lucky they could still pose a threat to the prem league title, ok this may seem far fetched but if the top 3 draw with each other and drop a few silly points and liverpool win all their games you never know :)

going to have to tell the fiancee that easter at her parents house is not going to happen because i aint missing this football again, did it once already this season and wont happen again
 
well hj if united draw with arsenal and liverpool and lose to chelsea the title is chelsea's hey

united will need to dig very deep and i cannot wait for the finale :)

big games on sunday hey :)

arsenal chelsea
united liverpool

i was also looking at it

if liverpool get really lucky they could still pose a threat to the prem league title, ok this may seem far fetched but if the top 3 draw with each other and drop a few silly points and liverpool win all their games you never know :)

going to have to tell the fiancee that easter at her parents house is not going to happen because i aint missing this football again, did it once already this season and wont happen again

Ya, that's why I said 5 points :)

If we beat Liverpool and Chelsea and Arse draw, then we are almost there already...
 
u sure about that ratman?

arsenal have 4 games i think could be a major problem for them

united
chelsea
liverpool
everton

12 possible lost points with their current form

liverpool 8 points behind arsenal

now with arsenal drawing who knows they dont dra aginst other teams as well

rat if newcastle lose tnite they in major kuk hey
 
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Try this on..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/predictor/default.stm

The title race is a lot closer than it appears.

Granted there are few big IF's in there, but even the Toffee's are in with an outside shout (though seriously seriously unlikely with the top 4 all playing each other, so dropped points won't help Evertons cause)

A few draws or shock results for one of the top 4 and it's wide open..
 
Try this on..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/predictor/default.stm

The title race is a lot closer than it appears.

Granted there are few big IF's in there, but even the Toffee's are in with an outside shout (though seriously seriously unlikely with the top 4 all playing each other, so dropped points won't help Evertons cause)

A few draws or shock results for one of the top 4 and it's wide open..

Great link thanks

Arse 83
ManU 82
Chelski 82
Liverpool 81

Sunderland
Brum
Derby

:D
 
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