2007/2008 WI tour to SA thread

chiskop said:
Yep, that is my hope. I would rather see us win a close contest than club WI like we did NZ, there's no fun in that.
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agreed but we got England and OZ to come so we need to be in the sort of form that see's us clubbing a side which although improving all the time is at best pretty weak....
 
sandmanm34 said:
agreed but we got England and OZ to come so we need to be in the sort of form that see's us clubbing a side which although improving all the time is at best pretty weak....
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I would rather say we need a close contest, so we can prepare for the England and Oz tours.

We need to get tested.

Dont think walking over the Windies will do us any good for the Eng and Oz tours.
 
WonderBob said:
I would rather say we need a close contest, so we can prepare for the England and Oz tours.

We need to get tested.

Dont think walking over the Windies will do us any good for the Eng and Oz tours.
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Agreed although if they do test us then what will OZ and England do to us?
 
sandmanm34 said:
Agreed although if they do test us then what will OZ and England do to us?
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Absolutely!!

With all things being equal, we should actually thrash the Windies!!! I reckon, that confidence gained will stand us in good stead against England.

What we do against the poms will determine how well we fair against the ozzies... (Realistically, if we win ONE test over there it would be BRILLIANT)
 
sandmanm34 said:
Agreed although if they do test us then what will OZ and England do to us?
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Well, we don't want the series to be "testing" because we underperformed, rather "testing" because they step up to the plate.

If they don't perform and we just coast through, we wont get tested and will go to India with a false sense of achievement.

Just my opinion, although the Eng and Oz series is still a way to go.
 
Soulsnatcher said:
Absolutely!!

With all things being equal, we should actually thrash the Windies!!! I reckon, that confidence gained will stand us in good stead against England.

What we do against the poms will determine how well we fair against the ozzies... (Realistically, if we win ONE test over there it would be BRILLIANT)
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We should have beaten them in 2003, Eng got lucky and managed to draw the series 2-2.

With our current bowling line-up, and if the batsmen performs to their ability, we should be able to win the series.
 
WonderBob said:
With our current bowling line-up, and if the batsmen performs to their ability, we should be able to win the series.
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Agreed...


And this is where Mickey is failing for me. Mkaya is in an obvious slump of form, a good coach would get him back to bowling with rhythm and skill and the same could be suggested about Graeme and his lack of form.

I just feel a coach on top of his game brings out the best in his personnal and this doesn't seem to be happening at the mo...
 
Saule said:
I only saw the score on yesterday's news. Good thing I didn't watch the game:(.
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I found the game entertaining. It happens to all teams at some stage, wickets just kept falling. And once you panic in that situation, things keep on going wrong. Was only a 13 over game, so no biggy.

And only 4 of the players are in the test team (3 without Pollock), and Steyn bowled like a demon. So can not read to much in to the game regarding the impact on the rest of the series.
 
sandmanm34 said:
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And this is where Mickey is failing for me. Mkaya is in an obvious slump of form, a good coach would get him back to bowling with rhythm and skill and the same could be suggested about Graeme and his lack of form.

I just feel a coach on top of his game brings out the best in his personnal and this doesn't seem to be happening at the mo...
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Mickey Mouse is useless. He might be able to manage, organise and strategise a bit, but obviously can not coach for sh$t.
 
Ja, agreed that in 2003 they were extremely lucky to draw the series and inexperience at the end cost us the series in eng.

Wrt to Windies - Steyn, Nel and Morkel (is he playing in the test?) should blow them away. Expect Graeme to come good not because of coaching or correcting his technique, but because windies are too inept to expose him. Kallis will come good and Gibbs will also have his one innings of brilliance!

It will be interesting to see how Harris preforms... Between him and Botha i reckon for the series against Eng and Oz...
 
Soulsnatcher said:
Ja, agreed that in 2003 they were extremely lucky to draw the series and inexperience at the end cost us the series in eng.

Wrt to Windies - Steyn, Nel and Morkel (is he playing in the test?) should blow them away. Expect Graeme to come good not because of coaching or correcting his technique, but because windies are too inept to expose him. Kallis will come good and Gibbs will also have his one innings of brilliance!

It will be interesting to see how Harris preforms... Between him and Botha i reckon for the series against Eng and Oz...
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Morkel is in the squad, but wont play in the first 2 tests, still recovering from the injury.

I dont expect Harris to do all that well, if you look at how the spinners performed in the SS Series so far this season, it suggests that the pitches are more suited to pace bowling. But hopefully he pulls something out the bag.

Steyn will kick some serious a$$.
 
WonderBob said:
Morkel is in the squad, but wont play in the first 2 tests, still recovering from the injury.

I dont expect Harris to do all that well, if you look at how the spinners performed in the SS Series so far this season, it suggests that the pitches are more suited to pace bowling. But hopefully he pulls something out the bag.

Steyn will kick some serious a$$.
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That he will!!! Amazing the selectors ignored him for 2 seasons after the home series against Eng...

Harris - That is my fear as well... We need a spinner ffs! How is Tshabalala preforming these days?
 
South Africa's record at home is pretty impressive, but Port Elizabeth is the one ground where they haven't got it right, with eight wins and ten defeats. Smith admitted that's a record he wants to rectify: "It's fair to say we haven't played our best cricket down here in Port Elizabeth, but that doesn't mean we can't play good cricket. We just want to keep on improving our game, and getting better and better. If we do, I'm pretty confident that once we get into the series, we can take control of it."
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South Africa (probable) 1 Graeme Smith (capt), 2 Herschelle Gibbs, 3 Hashim Amla, 4 Jacques Kallis, 5 Ashwell Prince, 6 AB de Villiers, 7 Mark Boucher (wk), 8 Shaun Pollock, 9 Paul Harris, 10 Dale Steyn, 11 Makhaya Ntini.

West Indies (from) Chris Gayle (capt), Daren Ganga, Devon Smith, Brenton Parchment, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Runako Morton, Marlon Samuels, Dwayne Bravo, Denesh Ramdin (wk), Rawl Lewis, Pedro Collins, Fidel Edwards, Daren Powell, Darren Sammy, Jerome Taylor.
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Nice to see Pollock back in the team. I'm not sure Nel did much wrong to lose his place? Unless he's picked up an injury.

Source: Cricinfo.
 
mmm.. interesting team selection yes. I would have been inclined to include a very in form Zondeki in the starting line up at the expense of Harris. Isn't St georges Zondeki's home ground? I would have also included Nel at the expense of a batsman, probably Ashwell.

What's the weather like in PE? Hope it's dry!!!

We will have to harass Bwana for a weather update...
 
I'm in holiday in PE, and it's raining the past day or two.
And doesn't look good for tomorrow's start.
 
yes they are, damn it!! why didn't Nel bowl around the wicket to Sarwin earlier? gees... oh damn it Gibbs out for 0!!!
 
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