2018 Volkswagen Arteon

BMWs have a terribly, terribly long options list. From personal experience. That 5-series isn't coming in at anything under R800k. For a 2.0l. That's a hell of a lot more than R600k. Also, you have to be fscked in the head to pay that for a 520i.
You have to be fscked in the head to take a balloon payment, but people do it. People calculate the affordability on the monthly repayments. So the purchase price doesn't matter that much with all the financing tricks.
 
You have to be fscked in the head to take a balloon payment, but people do it. People calculate the affordability on the monthly repayments. So the purchase price doesn't matter that much with all the financing tricks.

I just checked, my car works out to R829k as it's currently spec'd. You need to be fscked in the head to pay that as well, balloon or otherwise. BMWs have gone nuts with their pricing.
 
DRIVEN: Volkswagen Arteon 2,0 TSI R-Line 4Motion DSG

CAR editor Steve Smith samples the stylish new Volkswagen Arteon, which has been tasked with taking on some well-established premium players…

So, what do we have here then? An executive sedan from VW? Bit of a tough sell, isn’t it?

That’s true. As successful as these Germans have been in our market with hatchbacks and, to an increasing degree, SUVs, breaking into the luxury sedan market in South Africa has proved a tougher nut for Volkswagen to crack.

Where does the Arteon fit into the line-up?

It’s basically the successor to the CC that was discontinued here in early 2017 and will be sold alongside the existing Passat … at least, for the moment. It was a “let’s see what happens” message from VW and inferring from that, we may see the Passat exit stage left here at some future point, leaving the Arteon to carry the flag.

And it’s up against?

The BMW 3 Series/4 Series Gran Coupé, Mercedes-Benz C-Class and Audi A4/A5 Sportback are the obvious rivals, although with the Arteon, the Wolfsburg-based brand is looking to offer a highly specced premium product that’s nevertheless priced beneath its Teutonic rivals. The thinking at VW South Africa is that there are a lot of Golf GTI and Golf R customers who, once they are older, don’t have a VW product to migrate to and instead jump ship to those other three brands.

And that’s why you see this range-topping 2,0 TSI R-Line 4Motion DSG in the line-up. It shares its drivetrain with the Golf R, albeit offering marginally less power than its 213 kW/380 N.m hatchback sibling. So, it would seem a natural move for a Golf owner into this bigger and classier car.

Right, let’s hear more about the actual car then. Good-looking vehicle, I’d say…

I would agree. Of course, it will remind you of the Sport Coupé Concept GTE shown at the 2015 Geneva Motor Show. Although that was a 297 kW V6 plug-in hybrid, the Arteon is near identical in looks and I do like it when the production version follows the concept this closely. There’s something about the Arteon’s combination of conservatively handsome lines and avant-garde touches that really works for me. A mark of good design is how well it ages and I think Tobias Sühlmann’s exterior execution has exactly those qualities.

At 4,86 metres, it’s also a long car – in fact it’s the longest wheelbase on the MQB platform – and VW’s design team has used those dimensions to sculpt a low, wide, coupé-like silhouette that sports VW’s new “premium grille” on its nose (as does the new Touareg and China-only Phideon). The R-Line gets 19-inch alloys as standard, though the press cars were all running on the 20-inch options.

The interior feels easily as premium as those of its more expensive rivals, with high-quality leather and a metallic-accented air band that mimics the grille design and wraps round the dash and door shoulders. Digital interfaces feature prominently on the R-Line’s facia, with the Active Info Display instrument panel and new Discover Pro infotainment system with its its 9,2-inch touchscreen display both standard fitment. The latter is intuitive, easy to connect to and navigate, and unlike a number of other systems I’ve recently sampled, doesn’t become unreadable in harsh sunlight.

Thanks to a 2,84-metre wheelbase and a transverse engine layout, it’s a particularly roomy sedan too, with plenty of rear passenger leg-, head- and shoulder room. Boot space is quoted as 563 litres, which is roughly double that of the Polo Vivo.

You mentioned that Golf R-like drivetrain earlier. That should offer some performance…

It does, but it doesn’t deliver it in the same way as the hatch. Even in sport mode, this is a far more refined version that delivers its 206 kW/350 N.m worth of grunt though a seven-speed DSG ‘box in a more progressive manner. Reflecting the Arteon’s sensibilities, it’s less shouty too and the Golf R’s exhaust bark is all but absent.

Make no mistake, it’s still pretty quick, with VW quoting figures of 5,6 seconds for the 0-100 km/h dash and 250 km/h for the top speed. Our launch route took in some freeway and urban driving, including a couple of traffic lights that allowed me to get a feel of that first quoted stat. While I’ve no reason to doubt the claim, it didn’t feel like 5,6 seconds, though I reckon that speaks more to the Arteon’s finesse than anything else. With maximum twisting force available between 1 700 and 5 600 r/min, there is lots of in-gear punch and planting one’s foot or manually shifting down via the steering wheel-mounted paddles makes overtaking an easily accomplished task.

While it can go fast, this is clearly not the Arteon’s primary function. Refinement and sophistication are more accurate descriptors and, underpinned by the excellent MQB platform, this fastback sedan offers a controlled and supple ride with its precise and progressive steering tightening up nicely at the end of its travel.

Sounds like an excellent addition to the VW line-up. But one question remains: will South Africans buy it?

Tough to answer. The overall sedan market is shrinking, but I like VW’s thinking in offering something to Golf GTI and Golf R owners looking for more space and sophistication. It’s a smart move. Along with strikingly good looks, this 2,0 TSI R-Line Arteon offers plenty of performance and spec for the price (see pricing for the rest of the range here) and if you’re in the market for a sophisticated executive sedan, this is well worth a drive.

Notes:

Standard items on R-Line derivatives include LED tail-lamps (with dynamic indicators), LED headlamps, 19-inch Montevideo alloys, heated windscreen washer jets, keyless go, model-specific R-Line bumpers, a continuous chrome trim strip on the lower bodywork, chrome-plated tailpipes, a black bootlid spoiler, privacy glass and power folding side-mirrors.

Inside R-Line models, you’ll find a leather sports multi-function steering wheel, the Composition Media infotainment system (with eight speakers, Aux-in and USB), a driver alert system, three-zone air-conditioning, aluminium pedals, front seat heating, Nappa leather seat upholstery and stainless steel door tread plates (front and rear).

Optional items on our test vehicle were the “Turmeric” pearlescent paint, an electronically detachable tow bar, the DynAudio Confidence sound system, Titanium Black leather trim, adaptive cruise control (with front assist) and 20-inch “Rosario” alloys.

Model:Volkswagen Arteon 2,0 TSI 206 kW R-Line 4Motion DSG
Price:R699 900
Engine:2,0-litre, 4-cyl turbopetrol
Power:206 kW @ 5 600 r/min
Torque:350 N.m @ 1 700 - 5 600 r/min
0-100 km/h:5,6 seconds
Top Speed:250 km/h
Fuel Consumption:7,3 L/100 km
CO2:n/a
Transmission:Seven-speed dual-clutch
Maintenance Plan:Five-year/90 000 km

http://www.carmag.co.za/car-reviews/driven-volkswagen-arteon-20-tsi-r-line-4motion-dsg/
 
It's about the badge... You can get a better one for that money. Not a plebs mobile (volks wagen)
 
Volkswagen Arteon (2018) Launch Review

Volkswagen has launched a new flagship sedan in South Africa. The Arteon is a sharply-styled business class fastback and we drove the newcomer in Johannesburg this week. Should you consider the newcomer over its acclaimed rivals?

The new Volkswagen Arteon joins a throng of business class sedans that are vying for attention in a segment seemingly in decline as a result of the growing popularity of SUVs. The Arteon faces off against well-entrenched competition in the shapes of the BMW 3 Series/4 Series Gran Coupe, the latter of which is a category winner in the 2017/18 Cars.co.za Consumer Awards – powered by WesBank, the Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Audi A4/A5, Alfa Romeo Giulia, Jaguar XE and forthcoming Kia Stinger.

With the (Passat) CC now confined to the history books, the Arteon slots in above the Passat and assumes the throne as Volkswagen's new flagship sedan. Is it worthy of your attention? Click here to view specification and pricing details for the new Volkswagen Arteon

Looking Good

The Arteon is long and wide, offering a spacious cabin and high levels of occupant comfort and loading practicality.

The Arteon is undeniably a stylish-looking sedan. Its fastback styling, coupled with a long bonnet that culminates in a distinctive front visage with a plethora of chrome grille slats and full LED lighting treatment, make the Volkswagen particularly attractive at first glance. Many offerings in this segment suffer from "cookie-cutter syndrome" with generally bland, unexciting, run-of-the-mill designs and the Arteon is fortunate to differentiate itself in that regard. There’s much more to like about this Arteon...

It’s built on Volkswagen’s MQB platform and thanks to a wheelbase measuring 2 841 mm, the Arteon's interior space, particularly for rear passengers is truly generous. You can literally stretch out back there! By virtue of the liftback design, similar to that of the Audi A7, BMW 3 Series GT/4 Series Gran Coupe and Porsche Panamera (to name but a few examples), the newcomer's load bay is long, reasonably deep and easily accessible; the quoted 563-litre capacity is significantly more than its rivals.

Familiar interior

The Arteon's interior will be familiar to Golf drivers and it's well-equipped with an Active Info Display and large infotainment system.

The Arteon’s interior design will be familiar to those who've ensconced themselves in a well-specced Golf 7.5, with a clean and functional layout that has proved popular with the automotive media and general consumers alike. As you would expect, interior build quality is excellent with a suitably premium cabin ambience.

Although the Arteon can be had in Elegance or R-Line trim, all of the vehicles at the launch were kitted out in R-Line trim, which adds a multifunction R-Line leather steering wheel and Nappa leather carbon-style seats with full electric functionality for both the driver and front passenger. There’s climate control air conditioning for front as well as rear passengers and comfort levels are high with the aforementioned legroom for rear passengers being a boon in this segment.

Perhaps the biggest highlight inside the Arteon R-Line is the standard digital Active Info Display and 9.2-inch Navigation Pro infotainment system, which lifts the interior's premium appeal to new heights. Other features include adaptive cruise control with front assist and city emergency braking, head-up display and a 360-degree camera.

How does it drive?

While the 206 kW petrol boasts the most power, we think the 130 kW diesel strikes a better balance between performance and efficiency.

There are 2 engines on offer in the Arteon including the range-topping 206 kW/350 Nm 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine and a 130 kW/350 Nm 2.0-litre turbodiesel engine.

Our launch drive started behind the 'wheel of the 206 kW 4Motion R-Line. The Arteon is a comprehensive grand tourer and it displayed excellent ride quality during the drive; buyers can be assured of high levels of driving comfort, even in the sportiest derivative. The engine is paired with a slick 7-speed dual-clutch transmission and shift paddles allow the driver to extract the most from the motor, while the car's on-road characteristics can be toggled via the Comfort, Eco and Sport driving modes.

The R-Line 4Motion responds positively to throttle inputs, but its comfort belies its speed, which is to say it’s speedier than it feels and this particular derivative is capable of accelerating from 0 to 100 kph in 5.6 sec, which is respectable. The steering feel is light and relatively communicative and this range-topping derivative also features all-wheel drive (hence the 4Motion), which enhances handling and stability. With a kerb weight of 1 601 kg, the Arteon feels more like a sportier Passat rather than an enlarged Golf GTI. Volkswagen claims a fuel consumption figure of 7.3 L/100 km, but we expect figures of closer to 10.0 L/100 km in real-world driving situations.

The Arteon delivers excellent ride comfort, which makes it perfect for long-distance touring.

If you want to maximise efficiency, then the 130 kW turbodiesel-engined derivatives make more sense. Although the diesel R-Line DSG lacks the outright punch of its petrol-powered sibling, its engine still manages to deliver acceptable performance. The powerplant is pleasingly quiet and refined in operation and power is delivered to the front wheels via a 6-speed DSG transmission. Fuel efficiency is claimed at 5.6 L/100km.

This derivative displayed admirable cruising ability out on the highway, but lacks immediacy lower in the rev range. However, we feel that this turbodiesel engine strikes a good balance between efficiency and performance and if you cannot be bothered with dicing hot hatches then this is probably the Arteon to go for.

Final thoughts

Finding favour with brand-conscious buyers will be the Arteon's biggest challenge on local soil.

We came away impressed with what the Arteon brings to the table. It’s a rather unique and stylish offering that looks better than most in this segment and it’s spacious and elegantly designed interior should grab many buyers’ attention. Although its performance can’t be described as earth-shattering, the Arteon has sufficient grunt to fulfil its duty as a comfortable, long-distance grand tourer. Furthermore, standard specification is good, which makes the package even more attractive.

The Arteon is a difficult car to fault and even though direct comparisons may reveal that it is better than its rivals in crucial areas, brand perception in this segment may very well prevent the Volkswagen from realising its sales potential on local soil (after all, those who've driven the latest Passat will attest to the fact that it's a superb all-round package, yet the latter's poor sales figures suggest that consumers are not attracted to its nameplate, at least not in significant numbers). Brand power in this segment counts for a lot and consumers are more likely to stick to brands that have established reputations and snob appeal in this segment. If that is indeed the case, it’s a pity, because we think that if you are in the market for a business class sedan, the Arteon should be right up there near the top of your shopping list...

We will have the new Volkswagen Arteon on test soon, so look out for a thorough evaluation coming your way in the near future.

Volkswagen Arteon – price in SA (May 2018)

2.0 TDI 130 kW Elegance DSG R599 900
2.0 TDI 130 kW R-Line DSG R649 900
2.0 TSI 206 kW R-Line 4Motion DSG R699 900

The Arteon comes standard with a 5-year/90 000 km maintenance plan, 3-year/120 000 km warranty, 12-year anti-corrosion warranty and a space saver spare wheel.

https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/volkswagen-arteon-2018-launch-review/44980/

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Even my B7 Passat is miles ahead in terms of quality than the Jetta I had, this will be an even bigger leap.
For some reason I always thought you were the VAG collecting buddy Roux always talks about
 
For some reason I always thought you were the VAG collecting buddy Roux always talks about

No, we just live close to each other. I'm to poor to collect any kind of cars unfortunately.
 
Craig has 2 VAGs, a big white one and a small blue one. My VAG collecting buddy is actually more of a car collecting guy, but he likes VAGs most.
 
I recall talk of a Passat, a Jetta, an Up-exclamation-mark and a Caddy, hence why I drew my conclusion :whistle:
 
VW sold how many Passats last year - 20, 30?
In the luxury car game I'd say it's less about value for money; in fact value for money is likely seen as a bad thing. You're the cheap pleb that wants a luxury car but can't afford the Merc.
This thing is up against the big 3 Germans and all manner of SUVs, I reckon this suffers the same problems that expensive Kia does - image isn't cool enough in the private school parking lot and at friend's braais.
 
This is the thing most sensible people that realise how good the car is. Would probably want one that's 2 years old. Who's going to buy it new?
Shhhh...we need some people to go out and buy them new.
 
VW sold how many Passats last year - 20, 30?
In the luxury car game I'd say it's less about value for money; in fact value for money is likely seen as a bad thing. You're the cheap pleb that wants a luxury car but can't afford the Merc.
This thing is up against the big 3 Germans and all manner of SUVs, I reckon this suffers the same problems that expensive Kia does - image isn't cool enough in the private school parking lot and at friend's braais.

Never underestimate how much the "richer" people will pay attention to value for money...

Its mostly the people who are at the limit of their affordability who care more about brand than about value for money.
 
Never underestimate how much the "richer" people will pay attention to value for money...

Its mostly the people who are at the limit of their affordability who care more about brand than about value for money.

Look I hope you're right. I'm a big fan of sedans and this is one of the good ones. But reckon this will struggle to shift double digits monthly. Maybe the first month but over time, not so sure.
 
Never underestimate how much the "richer" people will pay attention to value for money...

Its mostly the people who are at the limit of their affordability who care more about brand than about value for money.

And the problem for VW is, “the people who are at the limit of their affordability” are way more than the “richer”
 
And the problem for VW is, “the people who are at the limit of their affordability” are way more than the “richer”

That is the problem for all car brands... because the people at the limit of their affordability are also a credit risk...
 
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