4 cameras for CCTV

HunterNW said:
How long is the power cable that comes with the outdoor camera ? (I'll just cut, solder and tape it)
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I think its 5m but I would not cut it. Remember the adapter converts it to DC to power the cameras and I've experienced losses when cutting those cables and extending it anything over 2m resulting in the attached devices not getting enough current to switch on.
 
I would always suggest a NVR/DVR so basically a wired system.

Wifi is cool and when it works it's good. Eziviz is good but they are very finicky and once set up have issues and are slow in response and sometimes lose connection etc which means every now and then having to do the setup of a camera etc.
Also what is the point of having a camera with a backup on a SD card inside it. Install it properly and to get access to footage (not view) you need to get a ladder take out the SD card go try download the stuff and then re-insert it also the SD capacity makes this always an urgent process.

I will always go the NVR/DVR route especially for replaying and stability. I over Dec installed 6 POE cameras and a NVR.

Also yes it's Dahua but they basically all the same shyte in crappy Chinese programming.

I have a Dahua NVR 16ch 8 x POE
2 x Hikvision and 4 x TP Link
The TP Lnk are better than Hikvision but TP Link only do 4mm and 6mm in the POE cameras I wanted.
 
AchmatK said:
Those tapo cameras are great. I installed 8 a few weeks ago. 4 outside and 4 inside. The only thing extra I needed was to wire some plug points to the carport. The 4 cameras at the carport all ruin from the same plug point.

You can also set specific alerts if you are not home via the app.

Only issue i have is that the AI human detector is to sensitive. It picks up my cat as a human.

Considering getting another 8 to cover the entire property.

I can't get it to steam to my TV yet but I do share my phone screen to my TV then it works. View attachment 1459427
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I have the same system and its been running for a year now. No complaints really.
The only issue I have is that the cameras on the far end of the property have weak wifi and occasionally I need to try and connect more than once. Notifications still work fine. This is not the fault of the camera though.

I have dc 12v extension cables running to one room where they are connected to a 12v UPS (same as the internet ones) to keep them on during load shedding.

They are a good deterrent as in the pitch of load shedding dark the IR lights are easily visible and the notifications work well.

Regarding the extension power cables, I did not have any joy with the cheap ones on takealot. The camera got power but would not boot up. I then purchased higher quality R400 ones from builders warehouse that claimed to be CCTV specific and they work perfectly.
 
Hemi300c said:
I would always suggest a NVR/DVR so basically a wired system.

Wifi is cool and when it works it's good. Eziviz is good but they are very finicky and once set up have issues and are slow in response and sometimes lose connection etc which means every now and then having to do the setup of a camera etc.
Also what is the point of having a camera with a backup on a SD card inside it. Install it properly and to get access to footage (not view) you need to get a ladder take out the SD card go try download the stuff and then re-insert it also the SD capacity makes this always an urgent process.

I will always go the NVR/DVR route especially for replaying and stability. I over Dec installed 6 POE cameras and a NVR.

Also yes it's Dahua but they basically all the same shyte in crappy Chinese programming.

I have a Dahua NVR 16ch 8 x POE
2 x Hikvision and 4 x TP Link
The TP Lnk are better than Hikvision but TP Link only do 4mm and 6mm in the POE cameras I wanted.
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Would agree with these sentiments. We always recommend wired unless for some reason cabling is not feasible.

In some instances where cameras are going to be indoors only, limited to a few, or outdoors and located pretty close to the router we have done wireless.

Regardless of claims to the contrary, every wireless camera will have intermittent loss of connection, interrupting coverage or to the point of needing a complete reset.
 
AchmatK said:
I think its 5m but I would not cut it. Remember the adapter converts it to DC to power the cameras and I've experienced losses when cutting those cables and extending it anything over 2m resulting in the attached devices not getting enough current to switch on.
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One of the core concepts with video systems is power delivery to the cable. Thin cable will lose voltage rapidly over a short distance and result in image artefacts and lines. We would also suggest to avoid any copper coated cable and use only pure copper cables.
 
AchmatK said:
Only issue i have is that the AI human detector is to sensitive. It picks up my cat as a human.
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A while back we used to promote AI detection on cctv cameras, and we would physically hard wire the cameras to the customers alarm system. The camera would activate the armed response alarm when motion was detected.

We stopped promoting this solution a while back since it was nightmare.

Even the top end brands version of AI is too inaccurate for this. Yes it does detect a human or a vehicle at the stated accuracy rate of 98%, after you spend countless hours of fine tuning.BUT - it also false activates for bugs that fly right up against the camera, rain drops, whole scene changes and is only usable at about 12-18m from the cameras.

The 2% false alarms in the middle of the night are frequent, such as nightly, and the 2% missed detection can be costly as we learned to our detriment. Imagine waking up every night at 01.00am to blaring sirens.

Regarding cats and dogs, you can accomodate these by changing sensitivity and threshold settings - but you also run the risk of missed detections on important events.

The AI is getting better, when using IP cameras and PoE but still not at a point where we would connect it to customer alarms.
 
Hemi300c said:
Also what is the point of having a camera with a backup on a SD card inside it. Install it properly and to get access to footage (not view) you need to get a ladder take out the SD card go try download the stuff and then re-insert it also the SD capacity makes this always an urgent process.
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We usually extract the footage via the app, or via the manufactures VMS remotely. Not really an issue imo?
 
Hemi300c said:
I would always suggest a NVR/DVR so basically a wired system.

Wifi is cool and when it works it's good. Eziviz is good but they are very finicky and once set up have issues and are slow in response and sometimes lose connection etc which means every now and then having to do the setup of a camera etc.
Also what is the point of having a camera with a backup on a SD card inside it. Install it properly and to get access to footage (not view) you need to get a ladder take out the SD card go try download the stuff and then re-insert it also the SD capacity makes this always an urgent process.

I will always go the NVR/DVR route especially for replaying and stability. I over Dec installed 6 POE cameras and a NVR.

Also yes it's Dahua but they basically all the same shyte in crappy Chinese programming.

I have a Dahua NVR 16ch 8 x POE
2 x Hikvision and 4 x TP Link
The TP Lnk are better than Hikvision but TP Link only do 4mm and 6mm in the POE cameras I wanted.
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No you can just pull it from the device via the app. Also a 32gb lasts a month
 
BrandonJ said:
We usually extract the footage via the app, or via the manufactures VMS remotely. Not really an issue imo?
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Same. I've got 128gig cards in all my cameras and if I need any footage it's very easily available for download from the app.

I will be signing up for Tapo care after the trial ends which gives 1 month of cloud storage.
 
Cat5e and NOT CCA cable. 8 port 10/100 switch with Gbit uplink ports for the DVR if the DVR doesn't have its own built-in switch. Most CCTV cams only sync up to 100Mbps anyway unless you use multisensor cameras or high megapixel, like 40 or 60MP.
 
netstrider said:
Cat5e and NOT CCA cable. 8 port 10/100 switch with Gbit uplink ports for the DVR if the DVR doesn't have its own built-in switch. Most CCTV cams only sync up to 100Mbps anyway unless you use multisensor cameras or high megapixel, like 40 or 60MP.
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What's the issue with using CCA for cameras?
 
BrandonJ said:
The total available power in watts on the PoE switch is also very significant. With some brands of PoE switch we would dedicate an entire 4 port switch to a single PTZ camera. many well priced PoE switches are available but severly limited on available wattage.
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Yes. It happens all the time but unlikely ro happen at home.
 
Anyone trying CCA cable is at risk of forfeiting insurance claims.
 
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