56K dialup

i gave up on dial up seeing the need for online gaming demand faster connections, my dial-up just wasnt cutting it for CS:S and definetly would help with BF2... i got ISDN now and having a blast... ADSL is still a joke in SA... broadband @ less than 1.5MBps?
 
well elsewhere you get broadband under 1.5mbps, in the US verizon ADSL has thier biggest package at 1.2mbps and thier most widley used package is 700kbps. Go on IRC and ask people on somewhere liek efnet how fast they are, you find lots of people use slower than 1mbps.

I dont understand that concept, 512kbps on ADSL or 1mbit on iburst or even 1mbps adsl isn't fast enough so you are going to use ISDN?? what is ISDN anyways, double dial up??
 
correct
without the cap
most of the peeps i get on irc have 1-10mbps connectiions
 
yes well the cap is only missing from places with great international connectivity, I think you need to draw a comparison with other southern hemisphere places like Australia or bazil, they all have caps, I have 1mbit and a 9Gb cap and I buy about 9Gb more a month in Aus my Cousin has a 796kbit connection with a 10Gb cap (although he has a second cap for 2 - 6AM for 12Gb a month), on his ISP all the other packages have similar caps but faster speeds the highest being only 1.2mbit adsl with 10GB and 24GB for 2 - 6AM.

I think what i'm saying is we do have broadband, 512 is broadband, 1mbit is broadband, soemtimes I think we're a little confused on the situation and think 10mbit is common in europe, its there alright, heck you can get 100mbit in sweden and even gbit in one town in sweden or hong kong, but its not commonplace (in europe anyway, asia has awesome broadband).
 
The only reason to me not to get ADSL is the fact that you either cant get it in your area or you simply cant afford it.

The cheapest 192k adsl with 10gig cap, works out from august R279 + R379 = R685 and for that you get ALOT more than 56k that only dial up from 7pm-7am during week and 7pm-7am fri-monday which would work out.. R80(line) + R60(isp cost) + R50(call more) and R9 ideally per night(x 5 per week) x 4(weeks) = R370 not even taking in consideration how many times 56K drops and needing a reconnect. Ok how much can you download over this period per month. Lets work on 5k/s.

5x60x60 = 18MB / hr (ideally, not allways) x 108hours per week = 1.94gig per week(ideally) x 4 = allmost 8gig a month..

Now remember, downloading ALL the time with 56k would make its pointless doing any other thing, since there is really no overhead remaining to browse when downloading at 5k/s. 192k adsl clearly beat this battle, if you can afford to pay for ALOT more, 24hr connection, bigger capacity per month(still farking small cap) and ability to adjust the gig capped accounts to your budget, then ADSL is an obvious choice over any ****ty dialup.

Yet again, the real people complaining about adsl like "useless" probably cant afford it, and I know, it is pricy but heck dont say its useless cause thats a really useless argument.
 
for me I can afford it and can get it, but wont untill they offer 1mbit, till then i'll use 1mbit iburst, i'll always be with who offers me the fastest speeds, I do not want to take a step back

although with the local cap ending I may have to rethink that, or get an uncapped account
 
What I would like to know is if it would be faster to sqeeze a faster connection out of dialup - is the current method the fastest? I mean with different modems but the same line could we get something faster?

Me just sceeming :)
 
kilps - if you have 2x analog lines, make the most of it tho pricy and multilink it.. afaik most if not all isp's still allow this on 56k, some still on isdn and from testing none on adsl.
 
Clipse said:
Yet again, the real people complaining about adsl like "useless" probably cant afford it, and I know, it is pricy but heck dont say its useless cause thats a really useless argument.
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:p

i have that choice but i would rather see what happens in August with the local capping and my ISP will let me know if that will be enforced by them or only Telkom.

currently i am quite pleased with ISDN even if its old tech now, but for what i do its fine thus far.... since ISDN can handle BF2 and WoW i dont see the need for ADSL atm, but still... lets hope Telkom gets their act together and gives us the real speedy internet everybody enjoys in the US and EU....
 
Clipse said:
kilps - if you have 2x analog lines, make the most of it tho pricy and multilink it.. afaik most if not all isp's still allow this on 56k, some still on isdn and from testing none on adsl.
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Its an idea - just the cost of running both at the same time :(

Oh well, life goes on :cool:
 
I've done some tests over this weekend (16-17th July) and found the following :

If I enable my firewall to use SAIX's cache at cache.saix.net, my international (overseas) FTP stays sustained at 3KBps, no more seesawing up and down. (FYI - I use SmoothWall, fixes 7, no mods).

Local FTP my modem gets about 10KBps (kilobits), sustained. With local I mean FTP from a server located in the same city as I do. Nice transfer rate... and it from a lowly dial-up modem... I transferred a 10Mb file (from Telkom's site where you can test your transfer speeds), but would like to test other file sizes as well.

I haven't tried nationwide FTP yet, so can't deliver comment on nationwide FTP speeds.

Overseas FTP gives me 1.5 to 3KBps (sustained). If I'm lucky, 10KBps, but it happened only twice, and for half an hour to an hour.

Maybe somebody is throttling something somewhere? :confused:
 
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use alignafrica.com through IS, get about 5k during the day and night. Great thing is that I never get disconnected over wkends. Manage to download about 5-6GB and phone bill is about 250 ex line rental. Doe sanyone have anyinfo on ISDN, is it worth upgrading to or is homedsl 192 better option
 
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