65" UHD for under 25k

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Hi guys,

I'm looking for a 65" UHD TV for under R25 000. So far the best deal looks like the Samsung UA65JU6000 from Makro. Has anyone used this TV before? Any other recommendations?
 
Don't buy any "UHD" now.

Wait till they actually conform to the UHD standard.
 
Do you have an article on the spec not being confirmed?
 
Dolby said:
Do you have an article on the spec not being confirmed?
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The spec is now confirmed (I said conform, not confirm) but most UHD's on the market don't conform to it. As in they are just high resolution panels but lack the 10-bit colour, HDR, HDMI 2.0a etc.

Will try to find you a decent link...only a very small handful of top of the range panels are to spec.
 
Thanks Sauron.

I'd heard it before, just curious on reading up on it.
 
This is the part that matters and the parts that the current TV's don't support. Especially if the picture itself isn't important to you then you should worry about the DRM section in the last paragraph which might mean that you won't be able to watch 4K content on your "UHD" TV AT ALL.

Video coding: HEVC (ITU-T H.265)

Video Bit Depth: 10-bits (per color)

Note: use of bit depths greater than 10-bits may be option or perhaps accommoded in a future update to the spec. through an extensibility provision.

UHD Video format: 2160p/24Hz up to 2160p/60Hz

Chroma Sub-Sampling Scheme: 4:2:0

Note: higher fidelity chroma sub-sampling schemes (i.e., 4:2:2, 4:4:4) may be accommoded in a future update to the spec. through an extensibility provision.

Color Gamut: Multiple color spaces (color gamuts) will be supported and delivered within a ITU Rec. 2020 transport format. Most likely Rec. 709 and DCI-P3 color spaces will specifically be identified and the player will be required to map from the color space used for the recording to the color space that can be supported by the connected UHD display.

High Dynamic Range (HDR): Is a feature that the Ultra HD Blu-ray players must support and is a option for use on Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. HDR can be implemented with one or two layers of information on the recording. The SMPTE sfor HDR (ST 2084 and ST 2086) is consider the first or basic data layer for HDR and will be a baseline requirement that all players must support. There will also be a option for a second layer of HDR support and players may optionally support the DolbyVision HDR or the Philip HDR extensions for this second layer. Individual movies released on Ultra HD Blu-ray discs may elect to support the HDR feature or not. If a disc is released that supports, for example, the baseline HDR plus DolbyVision HDR extensions, then this disc will still be compatible even with those players that only support the baseline HDR layer, in which case the DolbyVision extensions would simply be ignored.

Interface: All Ultra HD Blu-ray players will support HDMI 2.0a along with HDCP 2.2 copy protection and the connected UHD display, as well as any intermediate device (e.g, AVR), must also support these standards for their signal connections in order to the display the UHD video coming from the Ultra HD Blu-ray with all of the available features and performance.

Audio: In addition of the standard stereo, 5.1 and 7.1 formats found on today’s HD Blu-ray discs, Ultra HD Blu-ray will also support “next-generation immersive, object-based sound formats.”

Digital Rights Management: A new generation of digital rights management will be used for Ultra HD Blu-ray discs with the introduction of AACS 2.0, replacing AACS 1.x used on current Blu-ray discs. AACS 2.0 comes in a basic and an enhanced version where the enhanced version allows the movie studio to require the Ultra HD Blu-ray player to obtain a security key via the internet the first time a given disc title is played on that player. The player will then store this security key such that internet access will not be required for any future playing of that disc title on that player. At this point there is no indication if any of the movie studios actually intend to use this feature on their future Ultra HD Blu-ray disc releases, but it they do, then that would mean the user’s Ultra=HD Blu-ray player would need to be connected to internet the first time the disc is played, and that would be certain to raise an issue with some potential home theater owners.
 
Dolby said:
Thanks Sauron.

I'd heard it before, just curious on reading up on it.
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There's a good chance that even if you can play the UHD content on your "UHD" TV it will actually look worse than playing 1080p content on a 1080p TV because the panel won't be able to render it with the correct colour etc.

However the DRM will probably prevent you from ever seeing it at all. Unless you play non-DRM content of course like most people will do.

Essentially current panels are just high resolution panels and nothing else...which largely misses the point, but of course most people will just ignore that and run it on Dynamic burn out your eyes mode anyway while telling everyone how awesomely (inaccurate) it looks.
 
Hi guys. I'm not particularly interested in the UHD feature (although it may be useful in the future), family wants a 65" for sports etc. seems like all the 65" TV's are UHD now anyways. So looking for some comments on the Samsung 6 series 65" range. I can't seem to find any reviews on the particular model (UA65JU6000). If there are any great 60" TV's for the same price, will def consider too.
 
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squirrel said:
Hi guys. I'm not particularly interested in the UHD feature (although it may be useful in the future), family wants a 65" for sports etc. seems like all the 65" TV's are UHD now anyways. So looking for some comments on the Samsung 6 series 65" range. I can't seem to find any reviews on the particular model (UA65JU6000)
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Got the UA55JU6000. If you don't mind the missing Bluetooth it's a great entry level UHD tv. It's basically the TV you'd buy when people on the forum says you should buy the biggest non smart tv. It plays 10bit h265 great. Stil need to test 4k 10bit h265 (thanks Telkom :() but it should work. Also this is in wrong subforum --> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/forumdisplay.php/161-DSTV-TopTV-SABC-TV-services-Movies-and-Multimedia

EDIT: AFAIK the 65" is on sale now at Game with a soundbar. Decided to keep my 55" and will rather save up for something like this --> http://www.takealot.com/lg-3d-blu-ray-home-cinema-system-silver-and-black/PLID32851823 to get sound around the house.
 
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backstreetboy said:
Got the UA55JU6000. If you don't mind the missing Bluetooth it's a great entry level UHD tv. It's basically the TV you'd buy when people on the forum says you should buy the biggest non smart tv. It plays 10bit h265 great. Stil need to test 4k 10bit h265 (thanks Telkom :() but it should work. Also this is in wrong subforum --> http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/forumdisplay.php/161-DSTV-TopTV-SABC-TV-services-Movies-and-Multimedia

EDIT: AFAIK the 65" is on sale now at Game with a soundbar. Decided to keep my 55" and will rather save up for something like this --> http://www.takealot.com/lg-3d-blu-ray-home-cinema-system-silver-and-black/PLID32851823 to get sound around the house.
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Thanks for the tips. Not particularly interested in the smart features as I have a Roku. Also looking at getting a soundbar (surround sound cables are a mission I don't want to deal with)

Don't think the Samsung at Game comes with a soundbar though? http://www.game.co.za/65-ultra-hd-tv.html
 
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