80gig You Are Disgusting

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:confused: You are disgusting, its through people like you that we are getting capped on a 3GIG ...

Is this not called "unfair labour practice" on Telkom's side? Cant you (ISP's) get together and sue Telkom? on unfair labour practice's grounds?

I was hardcapped very early this month, is it because I dont support "the beast"?

Where are all the good lawyers of South Africa?

Where are you SNO?
 
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I was hardcapped very early this month, is it because I dont support "the beast"?[/SIZE][/B]
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In other words, if you had not been limited by the 3GB cap then you also would have downloaded more?

Hmmm, interesting.

My opinion? You CAN, so obviously you are not FORCED to limit yourself to 3GB. Yes, no?

Disgusting? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :p
 
I grind my teeth when I hear about others complaining about the amount of data people download. Folks, you've been brainwashed into believing that the 3gig cap is in place because bandwidth is scarce. The cap is there to protect their leased lines, it doesn't make sense for Telkom to have a faster (in most cases) and cheaper (far cheaper) ADSL service that outstrips their leased lines (which costs way more).

Helltel, get your head out of the sand it's no good you being ignorant.

SNO, has already stated they wont be creating a price war but rather work on service. So in laments terms, when you phone through to set up an account chances are you'll get through to an operator within 15mins and set up at the same price (for the same package) as Telkom.
 
No Slooth, it is you that has been brainwashed into believing that bandwidth is fee/ ultra cheap. There is lots of it, but it comes at a price. wake up.
 
Have you noticed how most of these pro telkom people are very new on the forum with very little posts?

Maybe telkom has created a staff thats job is to post here and praise telkom while insulting the rest of the users:rolleyes:
 
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@ Helltel..

Get off your high horse, if someone wants to DL 80gigs worth of stuff then bloody hell let them. Information should be free and it's only here in SA with this backwards, useless excuse for a telecoms provider that we can nailed in the arse for doing what the internet is supposed to be used for!

Get a life and clue..
 
HellTel said:
:confused: You are disgusting, its through people like you that we are getting capped on a 3GIG ...

Is this not called "unfair labour practice" on Telkom's side? Cant you (ISP's) get together and sue Telkom? on unfair labour practice's grounds?

I was hardcapped very early this month, is it because I dont support "the beast"?

Where are all the good lawyers of South Africa?

Where are you SNO?
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I've read this a couple of times now and I'm still not sure what you're trying to say?

How is someone downloading 80gb related to labour? How is someone downloading 80gb infringing negatively on your internet experience what-so-ever?
 
I have to admit my confusion as well... on one hand, this seems to be open disgust at someone downloading more than their brainwashed quota and therefore support for Telkom and a bash at Telkom as well...
 
me thinks someone is a bit jealous, i think its a general South african problem. they can't be happy for others, what u going to do in life cry everytime someone gets something better than you or, go home crying, lifes not fair.

Suck it up, good chances you will never have the best and it will never be fair. So if you want to be grumpy because of that fine, me personally, i think it is better to just be happy and get on with life.
 
Its like my father says if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything at all.:cool:
 
oh and another question what the F**$ is the SNO going to do about these so called abusers. Its not like Telkom is the only company that leases internet in the world has abusers ffs.
 
I think power users should be allowed to download large amounts (e.g. 100Gigs) if they wish, the real argument should revolve around ... if, and in what propotion, should they pay more than the average (targeted) user.
 
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I grind my teeth when I hear about others complaining about the amount of data people download. Folks, you've been brainwashed into believing that the 3gig cap is in place because bandwidth is scarce. The cap is there to protect their leased lines, it doesn't make sense for Telkom to have a faster (in most cases) and cheaper (far cheaper) ADSL service that outstrips their leased lines (which costs way more).

Helltel, get your head out of the sand it's no good you being ignorant.
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If he paid for 80gig then let him download 80 gig. He didnt though. He paid for 3 gig and is raping a loophole in the system to get more than he paid for. That is theft and that is all there is to it!!
 
It's worrying that there is some sort of morality being applied to bandwidth usage. If only people would realise that it's not really a finite resource like water or petrol. It's really only little electrons buzzing along a piece of wire across the sea (or electromagnetic waves through the sky) and the only thing that makes it finite is how big the piece of wire is, or how much of the wire Telkom lets us use. Sending more electrons down the wire doesn't use it up any faster and simply adding more wires increases the amount of electrons that can be sent, for the ONCE OFF cost of putting the wire in.

Telecoms companies would like you to think of it in terms of a commodity like petrol or water, but the truth is that once they have the infrastructure in place it costs them the same to maintain the "wire" whether they use it at 10% capacity or 100% capacity. "Using" a lot more of the electrons on the wire isn't quite the same as wasting thousands of litres of water on your garden during a drought. The global mass internet is barely 10 years old, and in another 10 years time none of this should be an issue anymore because with the current rate of technological progress in network technologies and the ongoing expansion of the global internet backbones, we'll be looking back at these days with utter derision and arguing about our 10Gbps connection speeds with 1TB caps.

In fact, it is the 80GB bandwidth users that drive the advances - In 1995 I had a 14,4Kbps analogue modem, and that was cutting edge. If everyone had been content with that then there would have been no progression. The Japanese and Koreans would just shrug at 80GB usage - they're pushing the envelope and with their cheap 100mbps connections and probably downloading 80GB a day.

The only thing that holds this back, is greedy Telecoms companies trying to brainwash the ignorant masses into believing that it is somehow "immoral" to get too many electrons.

If you want or need 80GB of content and can get it, why shouldn't you be able to access as much of the global information revolution as you want? The internet is going to change the world as much as the first printing press did, we just don't realise it as we're part of it, so why hold back?
 
Its not a loophole at all. On telkomsa.net's home page they spell it out - all the users in each bandwidth category are lumped together and once the average for that group exceeds the bandwidth category (eg 3gb) then capping will take place.

In other words - If you've got 1000 x 3gb users then there is a pool of 3000gb available for everyone in that group. There might be 250 x 4gb account users and they would have 1000gb available. Now it would make sense that in that group there are high end users and there are low end users. Hopefully it will all average out.

So what does this mean to you, our valued subscriber? To the majority of our subscribers it will have very little impact. The introduction of an average usage based option means that a hard usage cap will not be enforced on the basic services until such time as the average usage per subscriber per product set reaches the 2, 3 or 4 GB allocated limits. At this point all services exceeding the product capping limits will be capped.
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Obelix, simply put: The price that we are paying for our 3GB is in most countries the price they pay for unlimited bandwidth, so why be content with nothing?
 
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