Adding Gate to HA

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So, whether I use a Shelly or SONOF switch, it is easy to get my Gate to open and close from Home Assistant, but I would also like it to know if it is open or closed. With the Garage doors I can just mount a reed switch for that, but that is more difficult with the gate.

Has anyone had any luck pulling a signal from a Centurion gate motor to indicate open/closed. I have a D2 Turbo but I assume it is similar for the D5. I see centurion make a relay, which is for triggering a Maglock - not sure if this would help though https://www.centsys.co.za/upload/0_07_A_0236 CP106 Relay Switch-03062014-NG-web.pdf
 
I just used one of these on the gate. I have uprights going to the top of the gate to prevent someone from lifting the gate off the rails when closed. I mounted it on the uprights. I figured this would be a sure fire way to know someone is messing with the gate, as the actual gate motor doesn't have a way to detect it otherwise.

You can take it a step further with HA, where you can create an alarm in HA if the contact opens without a signal to open the gate.

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On this topic (Sort of).. It should be possible to mount a device with a simcard to phone my gate to open/close.
Where do i get that device ?
 
Nips said:
So, whether I use a Shelly or SONOF switch, it is easy to get my Gate to open and close from Home Assistant, but I would also like it to know if it is open or closed. With the Garage doors I can just mount a reed switch for that, but that is more difficult with the gate.

Has anyone had any luck pulling a signal from a Centurion gate motor to indicate open/closed. I have a D2 Turbo but I assume it is similar for the D5. I see centurion make a relay, which is for triggering a Maglock - not sure if this would help though https://www.centsys.co.za/upload/0_07_A_0236 CP106 Relay Switch-03062014-NG-web.pdf
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I have seen threads where people monitor the status LED on the Centurion control board. The different states of the LED show if it is open or closed, or busy moving. This is not an ideal way of doing it but I don't think Centurion gives you a usable output otherwise.
HunterNW said:
On this topic (Sort of).. It should be possible to mount a device with a simcard to phone my gate to open/close.
Where do i get that device ?
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If you have something like a Sonoff on your gate already, you can send commands via Telegram to open or close the gate. I just started using this method for something else, but it works well. Send command with Telegram, this gets picked up in NodeRed and an action is taken based on the command sent. Does it have to be a phone call?
 
furpile said:
I have seen threads where people monitor the status LED on the Centurion control board. The different states of the LED show if it is open or closed, or busy moving. This is not an ideal way of doing it but I don't think Centurion gives you a usable output otherwise.

If you have something like a Sonoff on your gate already, you can send commands via Telegram to open or close the gate. I just started using this method for something else, but it works well. Send command with Telegram, this gets picked up in NodeRed and an action is taken based on the command sent. Does it have to be a phone call?
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I can open/close my gate (and toggle the poolpump) with a simple Telegram message
 
furpile said:
I have seen threads where people monitor the status LED on the Centurion control board. The different states of the LED show if it is open or closed, or busy moving. This is not an ideal way of doing it but I don't think Centurion gives you a usable output otherwise.

If you have something like a Sonoff on your gate already, you can send commands via Telegram to open or close the gate. I just started using this method for something else, but it works well. Send command with Telegram, this gets picked up in NodeRed and an action is taken based on the command sent. Does it have to be a phone call?
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I don't have sonoff or Telegram nor do i know fokol about Nodes etc. Have a gsm call unit on my outside beams which works great, so was thinking of something similar for the gate.
 
Speedster said:
I can open/close my gate (and toggle the poolpump) with a simple Telegram message
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Do you also use NodeRed to process the Telegram messages or something else? Was it you that set up Telegram messages with pre-programmed option to select from instead of typing the command each time?
 
furpile said:
Do you also use NodeRed to process the Telegram messages or something else? Was it you that set up Telegram messages with pre-programmed option to select from instead of typing the command each time?
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I don't have node red. Telegram allows you to embed prepared responses to messages sent from HA
 
Speedster said:
I don't have node red. Telegram allows you to embed prepared responses to messages sent from HA
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Thanks, will check up on that. Don't have a need for that immediately but it is useful to know what is possible. I am now using it to toggle my camera alerts since my HA only works on local network. With Telegram I can control certain things from the internet as well.
 
Why not just a sonoff wireless alarm contact? Should work the same. Not sure about external rating though.

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Nips said:
Has anyone had any luck pulling a signal from a Centurion gate motor to indicate open/closed. I have a D2 Turbo but I assume it is similar for the D5. I see centurion make a relay, which is for triggering a Maglock - not sure if this would help though https://www.centsys.co.za/upload/0_07_A_0236 CP106 Relay Switch-03062014-NG-web.pdf
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I connected the centurion gate's built-in sensor to the input of a sonoff sv1 to detect open/close state. Was much easier than adding your own reed switch/sensor.

Just make sure you keep negative on the switch the same on both the sonoff and the centurion board. Also, this works best if the sonoff sv is powered from the same power source as centurion board. I think mine actually receive power from it.
 
Tinuva said:
I connected the centurion gate's built-in sensor to the input of a sonoff sv1 to detect open/close state. Was much easier than adding your own reed switch/sensor.
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That's exactly what I want to do, but I can't find anything in the installer manual that shows a built in sensor? How did you know where to connect it?
 
Nips said:
That's exactly what I want to do, but I can't find anything in the installer manual that shows a built in sensor? How did you know where to connect it?
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If your gate has an led that turns on when it is closed there has to be a sensor.

As for knowing, my gate sensors failed so it stopped working. Since I diy diagnosed it instead of paying someone is how I figured it was a sensor that failed. Since I had to replace it to fix it... That's how I knew where.
 
Tinuva said:
If your gate has an led that turns on when it is closed there has to be a sensor.

As for knowing, my gate sensors failed so it stopped working. Since I diy diagnosed it instead of paying someone is how I figured it was a sensor that failed. Since I had to replace it to fix it... That's how I knew where.
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OK. Thanks - well at least I know it's not a simple connector I am missing. I will take a look and see if I can figure it out.
 
Nips said:
OK. Thanks - well at least I know it's not a simple connector I am missing. I will take a look and see if I can figure it out.
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It is a simple connector really, at least on mine. Too cold now in Cape Town to go outside
 
gbyleveldt said:
I just used one of these on the gate. I have uprights going to the top of the gate to prevent someone from lifting the gate off the rails when closed. I mounted it on the uprights. I figured this would be a sure fire way to know someone is messing with the gate, as the actual gate motor doesn't have a way to detect it otherwise.

You can take it a step further with HA, where you can create an alarm in HA if the contact opens without a signal to open the gate.

ALA-365.jpg
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Can you share the HA code for this? Send an alarm if HA did not trigger a switch. I hope I can use it so that I also get notified if paradox alarm is triggered while armed - that is should send me a notification via Hass notifications . TIA

For the OP, I have a long distance (don't know correct term) magnetic reed switch connected to GPIO14 of the Sonoff SV that tells me open close status of gate. The distance is about 5-8cm

Considering my gate is wierdly built , finding a good spot was hard and took some attempts but the sensor sits inside the centurion motor housing and the other magnetic bit was glued onto gate. Works 100% reliably. Will take a pic tomorrow. You will laugh
 
TedLasso said:
Can you share the HA code for this? Send an alarm if HA did not trigger a switch. I hope I can use it so that I also get notified if paradox alarm is triggered while armed - that is should send me a notification via Hass notifications . TIA

For the OP, I have a long distance (don't know correct term) magnetic reed switch connected to GPIO14 of the Sonoff SV that tells me open close status of gate. The distance is about 5-8cm

Considering my gate is wierdly built , finding a good spot was hard and took some attempts but the sensor sits inside the centurion motor housing and the other magnetic bit was glued onto gate. Works 100% reliably. Will take a pic tomorrow. You will laugh
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Heh, I should have added that I haven’t done it yet. The idea came to me when I typed the post. Thinking afterwards, you may have an issue when you use the remote to open the gate and not the app. This will be a false alarm as HA has no idea you used the remote to legitimately open the gate.
 
gbyleveldt said:
Heh, I should have added that I haven’t done it yet. The idea came to me when I typed the post. Thinking afterwards, you may have an issue when you use the remote to open the gate and not the app. This will be a false alarm as HA has no idea you used the remote to legitimately open the gate.
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I sent a notification if the gate was left open for 10 minutes instead. Mostly avoid false positives.

If I wanted your idea, I would send a notification immediately if the alarm is armed and the gate is opened. Could possibly still do this, but by this time the front beam will trigger anyway. Each time the gate open or closes, the miniscule movement against the guides trigger the front beam. So basically have to wait for gate to be closed before arming alarm. I am happy with that actually.
 
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