Adobe's Flash future uncertain

Its all just a propaganda war against flash. Apple will profit from the use of their version of flash, and so they are going on and on and on about how bad flash is. Truth is that their version is even worse, and its less developed.

Apple even paid a security company to tear apart Flash in order to find security issues. Once one was found, they mailed every major news site and the bug made headlines. Since when do bugs in Flash make headlines? Since apple they do.

Its really pathetic.

Oh and I'm lolling at the "3 million units sold" ipad stats. 3mil is nothing compared to other popular gadgets such as cellphones and laptops. They tooting their own horns and everyone is falling for it.
 
inferno said:
Its all just a propaganda war against flash. Apple will profit from the use of their version of flash, and so they are going on and on and on about how bad flash is. Truth is that their version is even worse, and its less developed.

Apple even paid a security company to tear apart Flash in order to find security issues. Once one was found, they mailed every major news site and the bug made headlines. Since when do bugs in Flash make headlines? Since apple they do.

Its really pathetic.

Oh and I'm lolling at the "3 million units sold" ipad stats. 3mil is nothing compared to other popular gadgets such as cellphones and laptops. They tooting their own horns and everyone is falling for it.
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Well-said.

Dear Apple, please stfu and get back to marketing DRM-encrusted glorified turds. It suits you better.
 
i think most people used to use flash because they thought it was cool.
we've all kind of grown up now and the novelty has worn off.
although i can still see clients using the word 'flash' to mean 'some vague kind of animation'

in certain media-rich applications, such as games, flash will probably stay unchallenged for a while.
that's mainly because there's no equivalent animation and vector compositing ide for html5.
what may in fact happen is that adobe will create a new product which bridges this gap.
or they will get the next version of flash to compile to html5.
well, if they had any brains they would. but we know adobe better than that...
 
Some people give Apple waaaaay too much credit as if it is the be all and end all of IT companies. It's not. It's just a bit player.
 
APPLE, practice safe sex! (in layman's terms go f**k yourselve's)
 
Flash sucks .. it always has .. CPU-hogging piece of crap, like everything else of Adobe's. And Adobe's software has in general been sucking more and more the past few years ... they're degenerating from a software company into a 'marketing/management company', as seems to happen with many successful software companies that started out with good tech (e.g. Norton, AVG, VMWare --- all on downhill slides).

Slam Apple all you want, at least their stuff is technically solid, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters to me.

Unfortunately there is no decent replacement for Flash, and it fulfills a need, so it'll be around for a while, perpetually making my super-fast CPU cry uncle just to browse some little webpages.
 
There is no room in this world for inefficiency, Flash has gotten us this far but it's time has come to an end, the days of people sitting down and checking their email on a power hogging desktop pc are numbered. Computing is going mobile, smart phones, tablets and tv computing. These platforms require software frugal on processing and even more so on power, as almost all devices will be running off a battery. Unless Adobe can optimize flash it will be left behind with the old generation.
 
samuelbowker said:
There is no room in this world for inefficiency, Flash has gotten us this far but it's time has come to an end, the days of people sitting down and checking their email on a power hogging desktop pc are numbered. Computing is going mobile, smart phones, tablets and tv computing. These platforms require software frugal on processing and even more so on power, as almost all devices will be running off a battery. Unless Adobe can optimize flash it will be left behind with the old generation.
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Omg, its Steve Jobs!
 
Apple whining about Flash is getting a little tiring. Every news site has an article about Flash's future virtually every 3rd day. This is Apple's problem. Not the rest of the IT world.
 
samuelbowker said:
There is no room in this world for inefficiency, Flash has gotten us this far but it's time has come to an end, the days of people sitting down and checking their email on a power hogging desktop pc are numbered. Computing is going mobile, smart phones, tablets and tv computing. These platforms require software frugal on processing and even more so on power, as almost all devices will be running off a battery. Unless Adobe can optimize flash it will be left behind with the old generation.
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android seems to handle flash pretty well tbf
 
murraybiscuit said:
i think most people used to use flash because they thought it was cool.
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I've never liked flash, ever. It did however fill a gap in the market but I still hate sites that use flash.

Bring on HTML5 but without the closed H.264 format.
 
ponder said:
I've never liked flash, ever. It did however fill a gap in the market but I still hate sites that use flash.

Bring on HTML5 but without the closed H.264 format.
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Flash is quite commonly used to play H.264 video anyway...

The article's author seem to bee confusing video codecs and the methods to play them....

HTML5 / SVG with Javascript can do most things that Flash can, in a standards-based way...

H.264 is quite an amazing codec, but potential royalties makes it unsuitable for many applications...

Flash-type content have its uses, but most of the time it is used for unnecessary and just slows down websites and make them behave in unpredictable ways... (And break them on most non-PC browsers, such as Opera Mini....)
 
Tick said:
Flash sucks .. it always has .. CPU-hogging piece of crap
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And so does HTML5.

As much as people say flash sucks, it was the corner stone to "web 2.0". It brought us a long way and a reason for html to catchup. Youtube owes a great deal of success to flash.

Sure html5 will be cool - something standard and more open but this is how I read the article:

HTML5 introduces elements such as scalable vector graphics (SVG) for drawing unblockable bandwidth hungry adverts on screen, a built-in video tag which can be hooked to the H.264 or VP8 video format and be auto played to consume as much bandwidth as it likes, and a range of on-screen editing and manipulation features that bring interactivity to annoy you with adverts to need to interact with to remove to the web
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This is how you have to think on the internet, what is the most annoying evil way you can use a technology? Flash is at least limited to being contanted and have a swf file reference that you can block. Html5... good luck on world wide adweb 3.0!
 
eltherza said:
As much as people say flash sucks, it was the corner stone to "web 2.0". It brought us a long way and a reason for html to catchup. Youtube owes a great deal of success to flash.
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Nope, that is javascript and XMLHTTPRequest...

Youtube uses flash as a video player, which is the one thing that it is good for... (And it will probably anyway end up being used for playing H.264 video on browsers where the browser itself doesn't support it...) Flash video allowed for playing video on websites without downloading another horrible plugin (like Quicktime / Realplayer / WMP)... HTML5 solvesthe need for a plugin to play video...

Flash's main problem is that it is a propriety plugin. Adobe decides where it can / can not work... If Adobe refuse to port flash to your new operating system / CPU architecture, you loose users and can't do anything about it...
 
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