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ADSL Competition here late 2011
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The_Unbeliever
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GavinMannion
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.... it's a sad day indeedStefK
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If there's a news report (which I'm expecting, btw) about how the SAT3 essential facility issue is being delayed indefinately due to an pending feasibility investigation or unforeseen circumstances, I'm blowing something up, most likely the DoC.
Prioritising SAT3 access is the only thing she seemed to get right.
KampfGherkin
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To the most useless person in the world, Miss Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri: You're using up precious oxygen. Please make space and remove yourself from the human gene pool.
Kind regards,
Consumer and Tax Payer.
Kind regards,
Consumer and Tax Payer.
StefK
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Yeah, I'm praying for some action, but expecting the said report mentioned in my above post.
magneto
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omg ;(
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The body of the report is fine, the headline is just silly.
Hands up those who thought LLU would occur overnight?
The only thing that has changed over the past 24 hours is that all the regulatory requirements that were oustanding for SA to get affordable broadband are no longer vapour and speculation. They have now become governemnt policy.
We should be celebrating, but this just proves that good news doesn't sell.
Hands up those who thought LLU would occur overnight?
The only thing that has changed over the past 24 hours is that all the regulatory requirements that were oustanding for SA to get affordable broadband are no longer vapour and speculation. They have now become governemnt policy.
We should be celebrating, but this just proves that good news doesn't sell.
dominic
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i agree that these are, on the face of it, good things...although i simply do not believe the minister when she mentions time periods
my issue is that all of this is in fact already happening...it is in process and was in fact policy long before her most recent speech...
http://www.fin24.co.za/articles/default/display_article.aspx?Nav=ns&ArticleID=1518-24_2119137
Please also post your comments on this, at the bottom of this newspaper article. So that everyone can see them and not just those who frequent the myadsl forums
Please also post your comments on this, at the bottom of this newspaper article. So that everyone can see them and not just those who frequent the myadsl forums
Not sure how to look at this...
On the one hand, it could be seen that the LLU should be DONE by 2011. This means done even in rural areas. We'll just have to wait and see how accurate this estimate is.
So, looking at it from that perspective, surely local loop unbundling can already start in the major cities, so that Telkom competitors being introduced into the system can start building a customer base. In much the same way that Telkom ADSL was, when it was initially launced, only available in selected areas, so the other operators (lets hope we get more than just Neotel) can start offering services in major areas, and as LLU continues, spread the areas they can offer services.
At least, thats what I hope for.
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I have no idea how technical LLU is, or if what I suggest is even possible, so if anyone could confirm this, or provide me with reasons why its not possible, it would be appreciated.
On the one hand, it could be seen that the LLU should be DONE by 2011. This means done even in rural areas. We'll just have to wait and see how accurate this estimate is.
So, looking at it from that perspective, surely local loop unbundling can already start in the major cities, so that Telkom competitors being introduced into the system can start building a customer base. In much the same way that Telkom ADSL was, when it was initially launced, only available in selected areas, so the other operators (lets hope we get more than just Neotel) can start offering services in major areas, and as LLU continues, spread the areas they can offer services.
At least, thats what I hope for.
*Edit*
I have no idea how technical LLU is, or if what I suggest is even possible, so if anyone could confirm this, or provide me with reasons why its not possible, it would be appreciated.
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Roman4604
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All depends on how you define LLU.
Personally I believe LLU in its tradtional form (deploy your own DSLAMs, together with all the neccessary local/regional backhaul infrastructure to link them to your national backbone) is a red herring in this country. I dont believe there is any organisation (not even Neotel) who have the financial appetite to make this kind of huge (multi billion R) investment in the foreseeable future.
What makes it so costly is that no investor in their right mind would want to make a huge investment into the 8 year old antiquated technology our ADSL is built on. You'd want to go NGN (inc. technology such as ADSL2+), and this means deploying DSLAMs to the street corner, not the local exchanges. Telkom recon they will be spending R30 bil on their NGN upgrade and I really do see anyone steping up to the plate to match their spend.
This leads me to believe the only viable way competition in the ADSL space could take place in this country is with well regulated cost-based facilities leasing (i.e. Telkom local loop copper + Ethernet/IP bitstream from Telkom DSLAM to major metro interconnect points at a fair price). My point is then that regulation around Facilities Leasing as opposed to (tradition) LLU is far more important for foreseeable future, and this does not require 4 years to implement.
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