ADSL in 2009

Funny how none of them seem to want to focus on local servers (web, dedicated, gaming, etc). It would be fantastic if we actually had decent websites and services to spend our ultra-cheap local-only cap on.
 
Wogan said:
Funny how none of them seem to want to focus on local servers (web, dedicated, gaming, etc). It would be fantastic if we actually had decent websites and services to spend our ultra-cheap local-only cap on.
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True that.... I gues will w8
 
I like how IS says that the international link is not as expensive as what everyone thinks and that the pricing won't really change. Classic, be prepared to be screwed again and again on pricing. Monopolistic bastards!!
 
I agree with the view that packages will remain at R200 pm month and more - but more bang for the R200 will follow.

The overheads to admin an ADSL subscription and provide human support requires a package of around R200pm minimum.

However, expect that 1GB monthly allowance could become 2GB in time.
 
I don't mind paying the same amount, as long as I get faster internet and more bandwidth (cap).
 
R300 or even R400 is ok, as long as the cap goes over say 20gb and the speed is at least 2mbps, problem is, they have already setup an entire list of excuses which includes the comment by the bosses of IS, so called pioneers of ADSL uncapped and local only cheap ADSL

"not anticipating to have a major true cost change, as the international links alone are not the only cost to bear in mind, they are one input cost"

Time to fork out more money for these pple, they have no idea how much more expensive they are, and admin costs in this country should be nowhere near those of the UK or US, as with new cables, again the laying of these cables should be cheaper then in the US / UK.

All I can say is Bullsh*t, if you want money just say so, don't dress your greed up as something else and "hope" we will be stupid to accept it the way you want us to believe it.
 
"the reality is that the international bandwidth costs make up a much smaller component of the input costs that people may be led to believe" - ****!!!! This infuriates me. All along we have been told that it was the international bandwidth that kept the pricing so high in SA. Now that more is arriving imminently, they are saying that international bandwidth is only a small component of the cost. "smaller component of the input costs that people may be led to believe" - People may be led to believe? Who led us to believe this? It was YOU!!! You lying bastards!!! They are now trying to subdue the expectations of higher speed, higher caps and lower costs by saying crap like this - don't believe them. Demand what we have been waiting for so long. For too long the SA consumer has been screwed over - no more.
 
lol i dont need to vent here coz u guys have already said everything that i could have.

i think that we need to move away from the whole idea of differentiating between local and international because if the so-called industry falls for the "smaller component of the input cost" notion then surely international will soon be much cheaper than local???
 
i hope 1 day that international service providers will be able to provide us with packages.....but i bet the government will put a stop to that as no one will support telkom, not like they have a choice right now, and as for neotel......i...among many others....wont switch to them as there prices are also extremely high compared to other countries, i mean if they offered a 4MB uncapped, unshapped line for R350 a month then i bet every man and his dog would move to them, but they dont think like that, they just think along the lines of $$$$$$$$ , and they cant blame it on high international costs etc etc etc cuz how the hell do guys over seas get given a 24MB uncapped unshaped line for the equivalent of R350??????? answer me that and then say im being ridiculous for asking for a 4MB uncapped unshapped line at that price, other than that u are just trying to screw us like the Zimbabwe government screwing their own people on food prices
 
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The problem is also infrastructure...we need somebody else except telkom that can install infrastructure for adsl up to the final point...for ADSL's physical link we are always reliant on telkom - that's the weak link and the bottle neck. Again I say we need Local Loop Unbundling to take place...take down the last bastion of the Telkom monopoly...
 
As mentioned in the above posts, if it were so expensive to provide international bandwidth, then how do overseas ISP's manage to achieve it? For interest sake I was looking at the 'world stats' on www.speedtest.net, you should see the average speeds provided by the top countries and ISP's... you not telling me that they charge a fortune for those speeds and people that use internet services there are living on bread and water jut so they can be connected.
A story I came across a few months ago mentioned that when you buy a house in places in Finland for instance, a 4MB line is already installed for free... Don't quote me, I can't reproduce the source of the story so hold it with a bit of suspicion then, but surely something similar could (in theory) be possible here? I'm not expecting free lines, but when faster, cheaper tech comes along, it may benefit these overpriced companies to actually provide a cheaper service. But then again, isn't it typical here to provide a sub-standard service and then give ourselves big bonuses for being clever at (sucessfully) marketing it? Eskom, Telkom, to name a few come to mind...
 
Firstly, ADSL is fixed, and that sucks, people move around and do not want to be tied down by old pieces of copper like back in the 1800's

And then there is this BS :
SEACOM has become a beacon of hope for many broadband subscribers and businesses who are hoping that its arrival in mid-2009 will mean cheaper bandwidth, lower broadband costs and higher usage limits.
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Usage limits? You just don't get it do you! We do not want usage to be limited! Also, when seacom lands prices will go up!!! Not down. This is because they will use the excuse of covering the massive expence of laying a submarine cable. Come on please, this is SA - the consumer is like the town wh0r3.
 
aborg said:
The problem is also infrastructure...we need somebody else except telkom that can install infrastructure for adsl up to the final point...for ADSL's physical link we are always reliant on telkom - that's the weak link and the bottle neck. Again I say we need Local Loop Unbundling to take place...take down the last bastion of the Telkom monopoly...
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Wasn't Axxess busy with something like this some timee ago, and then they got shut down by Telkom... I could be mistaken...
 
Rouxenator said:
Firstly, ADSL is fixed, and that sucks, people move around and do not want to be tied down by old pieces of copper like back in the 1800's
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People's houses don't move around so being tied down isn't a real issue for a lot of people.

I quite like the wired solutions where you can walk into a room, sit down at a PC and start working without having to plug in a mobile device and then try to coax it to work.
When it comes to reliability you can't beat wired.

I use a 3G modem (E220) and it's a load of hassles compared to ADSL.
Great for a mobile solution but for a home connectivity solution I'd pick wired over it any day.
 
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