ADSL in 2009

I think prices on bandwidth will drop, because if a reseller of bandwidth cannot sell the bandwidth allocated to them by seacom they will lose their allocation to a competitor who can.
 
Paul_S said:
People's houses don't move around so being tied down isn't a real issue for a lot of people.
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True, I own a house - but I have fixed wireless because telkom is evil.

Paul_S said:
I quite like the wired solutions where you can walk into a room, sit down at a PC and start working without having to plug in a mobile device and then try to coax it to work.
When it comes to reliability you can't beat wired.
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When it comes to reliability nothing beat my fixed wireless connection and Linksys WRT54
Paul_S said:
I use a 3G modem (E220) and it's a load of hassles compared to ADSL.
Great for a mobile solution but for a home connectivity solution I'd pick wired over it any day.
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I have an N82 that I use on the go and it is flawless as a modem or on its own.

Wireless really is the future for end users. Corporations and gamer kidz might still need copper.
 
This is FUBAR... Really getting bored and tired of this crap... Its like people burning down busses because they drive taxis :P
 
There are the costs of connecting to the incumbent for instance, management of the network and services coupled to ADSL that also have an impact – the reality is that the international bandwidth costs make up a much smaller component of the input costs that people may be led to believe. It is highly unlikely that you will see the cost savings that have been touted around actually coming to the end user account.
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If that was true, why then the differenciating between local & international? You sir are a liar.
 
evilstebunny said:
why then the differenciating between local & international
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Because in South Africa there will always be a sort of discrimination and apartheid. If not with people then with bandwidth.

"Local" traffic is one of the biggest lies that ever existed ! And you telkom [-]fanbois[/-] customers are to blame for it.
 
Agree with you after re-reading the post. He did after all say 'that people may be led to believe'.

I for one would like to see some sort of lobbying against telkom/the ISP's because of his statement. How would one go about it .. or is it a lost cause?
 
We use telkom because we don't have a choice, and pls don't talk about neotel as my signature at the bottom will tell you, I can tell u 100 sick stories about them.

There is no real competition in this country, so called LLU won't do much as there is no one that is willing to compete with hellkom, Neohell (nevertel) is not a competitor, they just want corporate clients, in the end we're still screwed. Seacom or not, nothing will change, they will just brand something like

"ADSL powered by SEACOM"

and then they charge you an extra R100 for it because you're now on seacom, and not some SAT cable or satellite.

By the way, my sister is in the US, when they build their new home, there was like over 4 telecoms company that approached them begging them to have their telecoms wires installed by them, and when these wires come, they come with everything, all telephones are all VOIP anyways, local and even long distance calls are free on some networks, cellphone calls are treated like landline calls and are mostly also free if its within the same city, and at least a 1.5mbps cable connection for USD19 a month.
 
If IS says that the international component cost is so little then how is it possible that a 30GB local account costs R130.00 while a 1GB international account costs R70?

So basically IS admits that it is ripping the peeps off.
 
the IS having been ripping people off since the dawn of internet in SA, as for the US having a 1.5MB line for $19 a month.....what does that make us look like....... I have friends over seas, and they only laugh at me when they hear what we are getting charged for internet here.

guys i promise if i am ever able to create an internet company where i would never have to rely on anyone but seacom, i would charge as little as possible for the lines, lol, but i dont have 1 billion rand to start off on so i guess that went out the windows lol
 
yet another one in line of long list of pointless articles.. with catchy headline
 
Sparhawk said:
I like how IS says that the international link is not as expensive as what everyone thinks and that the pricing won't really change. Classic, be prepared to be screwed again and again on pricing. Monopolistic bastards!!
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With regards to this, I agree with IS unfortunately.
The pricing of bandwidth will decrease, albeit not like the general populous wants, we'll get increased caps for the same cost. H

owever, the cost of a decent connection, i.e. 4mb ADSL line rental alone is almost R600/month and it doesn't actually delivery 4mb unless you're almost sitting next to the exchange.

When will we get 8mb, 24mb or even 50 or 100mb connections? That's what I want to know, the rest of the stuff is slowly starting to fall into place, but is going to quickly (relative to Africa time) outpace the physical infrastructure that can support the caps we keep dreaming of.
 
the main thing we want here is a minimum of a 1MB uncapped unshaped line for starters......AT LEAST!!!!!!!!!!!! And that should be on a starting price of what lines start on now, then jack the prices up as speed increases.
 
To someone who said we will pay extra to pay for the newly laid cable...I think it is already integrated into the low cost to hire their international links.
Just don't tell that to the money grabbing corporates, they will smack you with their confusing explanations and trickery
 
well we are the laughing stock of the world due to high adsl prices, i mean i have friends over seas, and they ask me what speeds we get and what prices we pay, and when i told them what we paid they just laughed at me, even when i told them we get capped they turn around and ask ....."what's cap? ha ha ha".

so no matter what we do to try and get the message through to these monopolistic idiots that it's not only us that can see them screwing us, but the whole world can see it....they dont care, as long as they get their cash. dam i will be so happy to move to a country with a 24MB uncapped line for R350 a month
 
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