ADSL in SA is dead

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RogueRunner

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It's pretty obvious that ISP's contention ratios in South Africa is way way over subscribed.

I can understand shaping and even throttling and why it's needed. But if I cannot even surf the web on a 4Mb line in the afternoon when I get home, something is seriously wrong somewhere. Timeouts to mybroadband for crying out loud, 30KB/s downloading a patch via http from the developers website (not rapidshare) tells me somebody somewhere is not doing their job properly. Nothing wrong with my line that's for sure!! Sync @ 4096 just dandy!

This is not just with MWEB if I read all these threads in here correctly but with all ISP's which kinda tells me the fault, maybe not all of it lies on the doorstep of IS actually! From what I can gather it seems guys going via SAIX is having a jol, an expensive one but nevertheless.

So whoopie, now what? ADSL is almost useless, wifi and GSM is expensive, so what's left? Very very frustrated!!
 
Multiple accounts with a spread between SAIX, IS, etc.?

Sad.

True.
 
I'm on Mweb and can say except for the bit of outage again yesterday I am not experiencing the problems you are running into RogueRunner.
 
RogueRunner said:
It's pretty obvious that ISP's contention ratios in South Africa is way way over subscribed.

I can understand shaping and even throttling and why it's needed. But if I cannot even surf the web on a 4Mb line in the afternoon when I get home, something is seriously wrong somewhere. Timeouts to mybroadband for crying out loud, 30KB/s downloading a patch via http from the developers website (not rapidshare) tells me somebody somewhere is not doing their job properly. Nothing wrong with my line that's for sure!! Sync @ 4096 just dandy!

This is not just with MWEB if I read all these threads in here correctly but with all ISP's which kinda tells me the fault, maybe not all of it lies on the doorstep of IS actually! From what I can gather it seems guys going via SAIX is having a jol, an expensive one but nevertheless.

So whoopie, now what? ADSL is almost useless, wifi and GSM is expensive, so what's left? Very very frustrated!!
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Something is seriously not right with your connection... like seriously.

You have used 112.18 GB so far this month.
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I'm with Axxess and it's terrible. The speeds have been divided by 10 in the last two weeks, absolutely pathetic. I'd rather spend that money on some other form of entertainment, eating out or taking a drive somewhere. Lets give up on the internet.
 
Rogue, I share your sentiments completely. Im also on 4mb but cant get mor than 100kb/s. Something is seriously stuffed and im very pissed off about it. Might as well drop to a 512k line.

Naturally nothing and no one cares, everything just continues as usual :mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
I really don't know why we should give up on the internet, it seems to be working pretty well for some of us... just no idea why not for others.

ADSL Usage - (May, 2010)
You have used 164.22 GB so far this month.
Last Session: 11 May, 2010, 00:07:40
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I think it is pretty much down to IS.

Using IS - Axxesslite
D/l =0.71 U/l = 0.14, ping 532ms

Using Webafrica
D/l =2.89 U/l = 0.33, ping 278ms

This was 5 minutes ago.
 
Seems to be severe congestion at some peering points on the London end of SEACOM, similar to last night's outage:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...TREAM-OUTAGE&p=3899265&viewfull=1#post3899265

Code: 
Tracing route to newswww.bbc.net.uk [212.58.226.139]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
   2     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  41-132-48-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.48.1]
   3    29 ms    28 ms    29 ms  tengig-0-0-0-101.vic-ipc-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.134]
   4    29 ms    29 ms    29 ms  vl-92.vic-hscore-2.mweb.co.za [196.22.189.3]
   5    74 ms    75 ms    67 ms  tengig-0-0-0-0-12.vic-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.241]
   6    32 ms    32 ms    31 ms  tengig-0-2-0-0.mid-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.169.219]
   7   253 ms   262 ms   252 ms  pos-0-0-0-0.lon-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.163.230]
   8   526 ms   571 ms   532 ms  79.141.38.37.available.above.net [79.141.38.37]
   9   526 ms   524 ms   528 ms  so-0-0-0.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.27.226]
  10   524 ms   526 ms   529 ms  xe-0-1-0.mpr2.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.27.154]
  11   303 ms   299 ms   299 ms  bbc-gw1-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.226.103]
  12   293 ms   292 ms   290 ms  212.58.238.149
  13   307 ms   310 ms   306 ms  te12-1.hsw1.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.234]
  14   302 ms   300 ms   299 ms  newswww.bbc.net.uk [212.58.226.139]

Trace complete.

The BBC just reported that Gordon Brown has resigned as UK PM. That might explain some of the congestion on the interweb thingy (though this may not seem like a big story to some in SA).
 
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Agreeing with you guys, speed today is P_A_T_H_E_T_I_C_!!! As the joke goes: I can't complain about the speed, as there is NO speed!
On 4096 DSL, if I get more than 100k/sec I'm a lucky chappy for that moment, as it seldom lasts very long, then drops to around 50.
 
South Africa's internet is growing REDICULOUSLY quickly, and with that speed comes growing pains.

Giving feedback is good. Whining like French soldiers doesn't help anyone.
 
The ISPs got oerwhelmed, we really surprised them :)

It's like we got to a restuarant and finished everything, now the they can't keep up with the orders because there isn't enough supplies and the chefs are feeling the heat in the kitchen hence some of the orders are not what they should be, leading to unhappy customers and some chefs have quotas to try and cope with the orders ;)
 
From Axxess
Posted: 11 May 10
Emergency SAT3 Maintenance - Wednesday 12 May 2010
International ADSL AFFECTED
START DATE: Wed 12 May 10 07h45 (SAST)
END DATE: Sat 15 May 10 20h00 (SAST)
EXPECTED DURATION: Approx 4 days
IMPACT: Increased latency, slow responses
REASON FOR CHANGE: SAT3 repairs & restoration

ADDITIONAL INFO:
International traffic will be rerouted on a restoration path for the duration of the work.
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Maybe WA was right in the end.

Maybe it was unsustainable for the ISP's and now they are all feeling it. So they had to put shaping and throttling in.

Im with WA and have no problems. Speeds and latency is very good
 
Shaping was always on the cards, no argument there, it's a necessity due to our high bandwidth costs.

but

There's problems at IS and I also think MWEB's shaping rules are not thought out that much. Come on, when guys cannot play online games locally even, just browsing the web becomes a PITA and downloading patches and such from the developers sites coming down at 30KB/s, on a 4 meg line?!?!?!?!?!?!? They admitted earlier that they have dynamic rules in place to shape consistent downloads. Maybe these rules are too strict and it will start killing legit traffic too soon!!
 
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