ADSL Service

Ive noticed a small glitch in the calculations. Remember that you will be using a 512kbps Telkom ADSL line which has a 256kbps upload limit.. now Im not sure if this is enforced (I doubt it) but this could be a problem since your upload == user downstream. Effectively you can only serve 256kbps downstream per 512kbps line.. correct me if I'm wrong..

If Telkom enforces the upload limit then they have got their bases covered all right..

btw: standard ADSL lines are theoretically capable of 8Mbps within something like 3km of the exchange. Telkom only installs for 2Mbps. Your modem is capable of 8Mbps. Of course local bandwidth and international bandwidth dictates a lot of throttling by Melkhom.

If only we could get 2Mbps local.. and 512kbps international. All they need to do is up the local (speed) cap to 2Mbps once you are assigned to the "capped" routing system whereby international traffic is routed over a 28800 modem dialed into Saudi Arabia.
 
greedyflyza said:
Ive noticed a small glitch in the calculations. Remember that you will be using a 512kbps Telkom ADSL line which has a 256kbps upload limit.. now Im not sure if this is enforced (I doubt it) but this could be a problem since your upload == user downstream. Effectively you can only serve 256kbps downstream per 512kbps line.. correct me if I'm wrong..

If Telkom enforces the upload limit then they have got their bases covered all right..

btw: standard ADSL lines are theoretically capable of 8Mbps within something like 3km of the exchange. Telkom only installs for 2Mbps. Your modem is capable of 8Mbps. Of course local bandwidth and international bandwidth dictates a lot of throttling by Melkhom.

If only we could get 2Mbps local.. and 512kbps international. All they need to do is up the local (speed) cap to 2Mbps once you are assigned to the "capped" routing system whereby international traffic is routed over a 28800 modem dialed into Saudi Arabia.
Click to expand...

Glitch already been noticed :)

Downstream:
(( 512 / 20 ) * 90% ) / 8 = 2.88KB/s
Once again this equation applies to a full load!

Upstream:
(( 256 / 20 ) * 90% ) / 8 = 1.44KB/s
Once again this equation applies to a full load!

My question is, how is nukecap getting away with it? In order to provide a 512uncapped service, they need a 1mb pipe (theory).

Look, for now with the small amount of users, the 1 link should be fine. Won't be a problem to go out and get another line installed. Remember, I don't have 20 clients already. so for now, 1 line will be fine. I am looking at this senario:

(( 256 / 8 ) * 90% ) / 8 = 3.6KB/s

So max is 8 users. After 8 users, I'll install another ADSL line.

I think thats fair?

Comments and suggestions are welcome!
 
8 users per 256kbps sounds good.

nukecap uses a proxy which prevents or deters fullout p2p abuse. They also have rules which they impose. Thus, they pretty much have a license to give you slower speeds or rather to contend the bandwidth much more. They can charge R150 or whatever it is multiplied by 30 users = R4500 per 512kbps since most people are browsing only.. it works.. well im not sure about that.

Just a suggestion.. maybe drop the signup fee (or reduce it) for early adopters.. This way you will get a decent number of people signing up straight away and also, these early guys will be sort of compensated for problems experienced during initial testing and development of your service.. if its decent then they will do the advertising for you!
 
Well the option I am providing is a test account before you signup. That way you can evaluate the service and make your decision from their.
 
Just as a note, I have been doing some tests, and here is the results from the Telkom ADSL speed test:

Your line speed is approximately 386.9 Kbps or 47.4 kBytes/sec

Which isn't too bad, but I'll leave it up to you guys to try it out! Just give me a PM, and I'll give you a test accoutn to use!
 
bobs_uncle, could you give some indication of how good your international pings are?
Particularly for MMORG games like World of Warcraft?

BTW, good on you for taking the initiative. I bet there is plenty of "spare" capacity on corporate networks that could be used to turn some extra income :)
 
that is pretty sweet bobs...
You should contact the resident WoW/international gamers on this forum - they would probably be very interested in a low capacity, low latency international link for R100 pm :)

Your offer is very appealing :) Now if my DSL line ever gets installed...:(
 
The problem is, everyone seems to be "burnt" from previous rip-offs and are not really interested in my service... but maybe later on, who knows.
 
To those that asked for a test account, may you please post some comments on the service?

Thanks
 
Some Test results

All below on HomeDSL384/3G uncapped.

Speed test to telkom:

a) Through Mweb:
Your line speed is approximately 282.9 Kbps or 34.7 kBytes/sec :mad:
(I tried this 6 times in succession, got the same results. Other times that I've tested I usually get 300-330kbps)
<edit> new test: Your line speed is approximately 283.5 Kbps or 34.7 kBytes/sec :mad:

b) Through freedsl proxy:
Your line speed is approximately 207.9 Kbps or 25.5 kBytes/sec
(I don't know if this is really a good comparison though. I'll try a bit later this evening and see if speeds are up on my connection.)
<edit>new test: Your line speed is approximately 284.8 Kbps or 34.9 kBytes/sec...so no difference really.

International test (Stanford)
a)Mweb ISP:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 195.23Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 35.42kb/s


b)freedsl proxy:
TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.1e
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 161.77Kb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 27.36kb/s



Since this is a proxy service, I'm not sure how to test pings...is there some application that forces pings through a particular proxy?
 
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Looks good, but i'd like to see the speed tests with 30 concurrent users :D a Service like this is geniunely needed in South Africa at this stage, just that, things always start off great and end in disaster. Or at least it seems that way
 
Just a quick Q. In order to test/use this service, one must have an already installed DSL line together with an ISP account?
 
wow nukecap getting mentioned alot ;-) *feels like telkom* lol
 
Hi there,

Thanks for testing the service arf9999. Remember, I am not guarantee-ing an 1:1 512kb link. I am guarantee-ing 20th of a 512kb link. But as for the tests, well they weren't what I was expecting. The test accouts expire on the 31st of this month (March).

Obvious some more in-depth look at the traffic control systems will prove a different point. As for the ping tests, well you'll need to use the VPN service, as proxy doesn't cator for "pings", or atleast not to my knowlegde.

If I may, please may ou continue testing the service for me, as I can not alone test the system. I'd really like to offer a remarkable service as well as a fair priced service. Something everyone can afford. But to do that, I need input from the community, so any ideas are greatly appreciated, and all noted!
 
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