ADSL without line rental

Should Telkom sell naked ADSL (DSL without compulsary telephone line rental)

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 100.0%

  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    14
Its been time since 2002 when they launched ADSL.

I have to pay the Line Rental and I don't even have a phone plugged into the line since nobody knows the number and nobody ever will... Hell I have to have it written down because I don't know it.
 
Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer from Telkom: "Pry it from my overpaid executives dead hands"
 
In addition, I think ADSL line rental should also fall away, and one should just need to pay for the installation. Basically you just need to pay for the ADSL port at the exchange to be enabled.
 
*sigh*.

If telkom throws away the line rental, i will probably be able to move out the house. I could actually afford it then
 
I don't see this happening very soon ... perhaps if they never sold their shar in Vodacom then profit margins would still be high and then they would have considered it ... but not now!
 
Yes!!!

But if it would ever happen. This is telkom people! Its never going to happen.
 
{sarcasm font} Now if only we had something like a commission or committee that investigated anti competitive behaviour... or an independent regulatory body that oversees communication {/sarcasm font}
 
Telkom is a stagnant organization that reacts to market forces, therefore dropping the analogue line rental would have to be enforced by government which doesn't have the balls or incentive to slaughter their cash cow.

It will never happen with the execrative thugs that are currently in power so get used to it or use an alternative means to get internet.
 
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I think the competition commission should step in here and fine Telkom R150 a month for every analogue line only being used for ADSL , then there would be something in it for Telkom
 
bekdik said:
Why should they? What's in it for them?
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More foreign investment and growth in the country creating more employment and more people able to afford ADSL bringing further economies of scale and better education for SA.

Alas Telkom can't see past their nose and greed.
 
In my view this will never happen.

You need a piece of copper wire (local lead) to connect to the ADSL backbone. This piece of wire has to have some sort of identifier to allow the network provider a means of locating this piece of wire on the network. A telephone number is the most commonly (and widely) used means to do this for a private individual.
Even fixed point to point data lines have a local lead (copper wire) billing component in the overall line costs. It is a a separate line item in the charge (as well as inter exchange connection which are either copper or "carrier". There could be multiple inter exchange charges as well depending upon the various exchanges are direct linked or linked via other exchanges. This is billed at radial distance rates) and "port" (bandwidth slots)

So as long as there is a requirement to have a line and a backbone connectivity there will always be double billing.

The only place that competition (and pricing) MAY be affected is if each ISP could put their own equipment within an exchange, running on their own backbone between said exchange and their data centre to connect to the LL (Telkom or other party supplied)

The ultimate goal would be for multiple infrastructure (down to the residence) vendors be available and they compete for the business to connect to the ISP's own backbones. No money to be made there I am afraid
 
I think the reason the whole line rental thing started was because Telkom was making tons of money out of dial-up internet because we had to pay for how ever long we dialed in, they saw it as a threat to that revenue. In other countries like the US dial up used to be a free call (free local calls), so the switch over to ADSL was not such a big threat to the phone companies and they whole heartedly embraced the new paradigm and made the most out of it. I suspect that we are STILL paying to this day for Telkom being scared of losing all that dial up revenue.

As an example of these ridiculous Telkom costs: I asked for an indoor extension of my phone line but the technician could not install it through the supplied wall cabling that would have ran the cable neatly from the lounge to the study via the ceiling. So instead he pasted it along the outside of the wall with... silicon! .. which soon came loose with the cable dangling about. Now, ladies and gentleman, for THAT pathetic cable running through my house along the outside walls with badly patched silicone I have to pay R11 PER MONTH. Times that over the 7 years that I've had it I have to pay more than R900 for that pathetic cable and there is no way I can stop it or discontinue it without risking cancelling my whole line with them and then waiting another 6 months to reconnect it..... How crazy is that?!
 
For how long do we have to continue "bending over" for Telkom before someone up there in government sees that they are holding back SA !!!???!!! I think its about time we have REPs from Telkom,ICASA, Dept of Communication and Competition Commision on myBB


COME ON ADMINS HOW ABOUT IT !!!???!!! FTW
 
No unique to Telscum and SA I'm afraid. Have the exact same situation here in Europe with the ex-guavament telco except the line rental is closer to R180 per month. Just to put that in perspective a cell contact with unlimited calls to 3 numbers (any network fixed or mobile) or free calls to all fixed lines only costs areound R100 per month.
 
Uhm, let me get this straight. If you get the all inclusive package from MWEB for R349 you don't have to pay the analogue line rental? I was under the impression that the R349 is for uncapped and ADSL connectivity and then you still have to pay the R131 for the line rental.
 
djrwb said:
So as long as there is a requirement to have a line and a backbone connectivity there will always be double billing.
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So if there are technical reasons making this difficult, they could at least provide discount on the phone component if the customer pays for the ADSL component too, or drop the ADSL line rental component completely..

However, I agree this is anti-competitive to other Voip providers
 
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