Advice please

Amos_Keeto said:
That's about on par with thinking that it's "natural" for guys to cheat. It's like us men walking around thinking that all women want kids and are natural cooks.

It's just not true.

Nah, be straight with the guy. I think most of us men appreciate it more when people are upfront with us, especially women =]

You will get some men who do have the "I am man, must make move first, but first scratch arse" gene switched on, but to be honest, you'll end up having more issues what that type down the road, than the type who was comfortable with you making the first move.
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I see, thanks for that noted. Maybe I'm the one who is a bit last century? Guess that happens if one hasn't been dating for a looooong while lol
 
lynda123 said:
I see, thanks for that noted. Maybe I'm the one who is a bit last century? Guess that happens if one hasn't been dating for a looooong while lol
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Meh, s just how we as humans tend to start thinking after a while. Mark my words, four years down the line and it'll be common knowledge that "real men" are the ones who use more moisturiser than their SO's. =]
 
lynda123 said:
He has sent me a love poem before, of which I asked him what it meant and he replied with a what do you want it to mean (I just hate it when guys do that).
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And we say guys are bad at picking up subtle hints...

Just ask him out already dammit!

abzo said:
Make it hypothetical. Ask him "what would you say if I asked you out?". That way no one gets burnt since he'll never know for sure.
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Remember having a female friend try that on me. I don't think it's a great idea because honestly, he'll know what it means. At least I thought it was obvious. Maybe it made turning her down easier though.
 
It's natural for a man to want to impregnate as many woman as possible. Or you could rephrase this as it's natural for any male to want to impregnate as many females as possible. It's the best way to ensure the continuation of the species.

It's only in our construction of society and our culture that this is viewed as "cheating".

@Lynda - Perhaps try flirting with him first and see how he responds? If you're not comfortable with this, organise for just the two of you to meetup. If there is chemistry between you and him, nature will do it's thing. If he doesn't make a move, he's too timid to do so, or he's just not into you. If you suspect he's the timid type, then just tell him you like him.

@Amos - While I have no issues with girls hitting on me, in general, a girl wants a guy who is confident enough to make the first move.
 
zolly said:
It's natural for a man to want to impregnate as many woman as possible. Or you could rephrase this as it's natural for any male to want to impregnate as many females as possible. It's the best way to ensure the continuation of the species.

It's only in our construction of society and our culture that this is viewed as "cheating".

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@Amos - While I have no issues with girls hitting on me, in general, a girl wants a guy who is confident enough to make the first move.
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Ok, I'm going to have to call "ag no, not that tired old bull" on the first part of your reply. Just because we like to shag, doesn't mean it's natures way of telling us that infidelity is ok. On top of that, nature also has many examples of creatures that mate for life, and not just sow their oats all over the show.

That being said, and in an effort to not derail any further, my point was that "seeing men as hunters" is an outdated stereotype, along with seeing women as "cooks and babymachines".

As for the second part, while I agree that (once again generalising) most women like confident men, I wasn't referring to confidence. I was referring to the overbearing personality type. If a guy takes serious issue with a woman making the first move, i.e. a confident woman, then they will more than likely have severe issues every time she makes a confident move that they did not approve. Afterall, the man is the ruler in their eyes. Hence my opinion that by avoiding the personality type, you will save yourself a lot of grief.
 
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I always find it funny when we start going to the "Me, man: must hunt. You, woman: must gather." route.

Don't have reference to it, but have also heard that our understanding of the whole hunter-gatherer thing might be totally wrong way around.

Woman went around and decided where to stay and where to plant.

The men then had to protect the woman, feed them, clothe them and keep them safe and warm.

Not because "Me, Man" is better or strong, but because "You, Woman" is way more important to the specie.

Luckily in about the 1800's or so women were declared equal. This helped a lot. Before that, they were way superior to man ...
 
lynda123 said:
He has sent me a love poem before, of which I asked him what it meant and he replied with a what do you want it to mean (I just hate it when guys do that).
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This was him making the first move, you being coy, and then him thinking you're not keen...
 
doobyscoo said:
This was him making the first move, you being coy, and then him thinking you're not keen...
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That. Sorry.

Though does present another opening: "Hi. Found that poem you send me again the other day. So, when are you taking me out?"
 
bin3 said:
That. Sorry.

Though does present another opening: "Hi. Found that poem you send me again the other day. So, when are you taking me out?"
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Interesting and clever....thanks!
 
porchrat said:
The final step of that plan of course is to post a picture of your boobs on this thread. You know... just in case he is a member. ;)
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Ouch: Boobs and member in one sentence ...

'k: Maybe a sentence containing "ouch", "boobs" and "member" compares to that.
 
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