Affirmative Action here forever

protzkrog said:
And how about the British that commited far worse attocrities in the Anglo Boer war (killing 27 000 women and children) why cant the Afrikaners have a share in their companies ? it's only fair, in the spirit of Ubuntu.
what crimes against humanity ? where are the mass graves ?
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Why stop there... why not also include Shaka who decimated indigenous tribes from the Phongolo to the Mzimkhulu river ... slaughtering thousands, taking heir herds and giving their women away to his impi as concubines???

Shouldn't we then exclude all Zulu's too?? wonder how happy they'd be ? we might even see a couple of impi in the flesh
 
I think all the wealth should be distributed to the bushman they were here first and driven out by the hordes from the north
 
xtermin8or said:
And how do you compensate for decades of oppression
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well the government thinks that forcing companies to share their wealth with persons on the basis of skin colour is a good idea, as well as racist employment policies...
 
telkomsuig said:
I think all the wealth should be distributed to the bushman they were here first and driven out by the hordes from the north
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yep, give it all back to the bushmen, the San and the Khoi, all the Nguni settlers should go back home
 
xtermin8or said:
And how do you compensate for decades of oppression
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You got the country back?!!! isnt that 1st prize? You got handed a fully working country, take that as a 'Franchise Starter pack' and improve on it, not pillage it and penalise the patrons of the country..

If a work collegue took your stapler, and returned it 6 months later... do you sue him for 'compensation' due to being forced to go without one ? or are you happy that you got it back?

Some people are never happy with what they got... go to DRC, Ivory coast etc etc and see what little those brave people have... and then come back to SA and complain. You fail to realise "It could be worse", accept the gif that its better and work towards a common goal.
 
RichardP said:
You got the country back?!!! isnt that 1st prize? You got handed a fully working country, take that as a 'Franchise Starter pack' and improve on it, not pillage it and penalise the patrons of the country..

If a work collegue took your stapler, and returned it 6 months later... do you sue him for 'compensation' due to being forced to go without one ? or are you happy that you got it back?

Some people are never happy with what they got... go to DRC, Ivory coast etc etc and see what little those brave people have... and then come back to SA and complain. You fail to realise "It could be worse", accept the gif that its better and work towards a common goal.
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Agreed! And that goes for you to.
 
JK8 said:
Agreed! And that goes for you to.
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What? Accept it could be worse? How is it acceptable to move from a situation where certain groups were treated as second class citizens to a situation where a different group are now treated that way?
 
Syndyre said:
What? Accept it could be worse? How is it acceptable to move from a situation where certain groups were treated as second class citizens to a situation where a different group are now treated that way?
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It's SA's new rock n roll - take 1 step forward and 3 steps back.
 
RichardP said:
You got the country back?!!! isnt that 1st prize? You got handed a fully working country
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First prize would have been a country without the inequalities that affect our society today.

However, we need to build on the positives and fix the negatives. Its going to take a very long time.
 
Luanda and Angola in general work better than this place and don't tell me that what happened there is comparable to what happened here; it's far worse!!!

The only difference is that their majority don't walk around with a chip on their shoulders demanding to be given everything for their efforts in the struggle, they're all working together to get the place back on track.

Nobody loses in their case but here it is more to do with retribution than rebuilding & reconciliation and I for one have nothing to pay penance for.
 
Syndyre said:
What? Accept it could be worse? How is it acceptable to move from a situation where certain groups were treated as second class citizens to a situation where a different group are now treated that way?
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Is the new government treating you like we were treated? Wrong!
 
xtermin8or said:
The ANC understood the dynamics of the country and had plans in place, but it was only implemented after business was given a chance to transform on their own

the rest of your rantings are not a counter argument, but rather an enforcement of my previous point - white business is responsible for the poor implementation of AA
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The trouble with BEE is the way it is being implemented. It is used as a rewasrd system for former struggle figures or anyone in the bosom of the ANC as a political favour.

Here's a good example:
Not now. In a short time Carolus, former ambassador to London and darling of those nostalgic for the optimistic non-racialism of the United Democratic Front, has become a firm BEE favourite.

Carolus, Dolly Mokgatle, Wendy Lucas-Bull and Thandi Orleyn make up the Peotona consortium, one of two lead partners of the R1,1-billion BEE deal of cement producer Lafarge. The other lead partner is Motjoli, led by Nchakha Moloi and Nonkqubela Mazwai.
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=279249&area=/insight/insight__economy__business/
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what happens in the rest of africa ? the leaders (and government ppl and their comrades) get rich, and the poor stay poor...same thing is happening with BEE
 
JK8 said:
Is the new government treating you like we were treated? Wrong!
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Actually they are treating us alot worse.... the Apartheid government at least gave the African people rights to rule their home-lands. (as they see fit)
 
RichardP said:
Actually they are treating us alot worse.... the Apartheid government at least gave the African people rights to rule their home-lands. (as they see fit)
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SO they were thrown into areas and said there, make what you want of it and dont come out!!:confused:
 
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