Afrihost canning double mobile data

jbellard said:
buy buy afrihost..
service was anyway pathetic last couple months..

if they can subsidise ADSL and but not mobile.... no good practice.
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That's the wrong kind of bye bye, mate they'd be happy if you buy buy..
 
flbjhb said:
So finally they will be stopping double mobile data. Guess thats a signal to cancel the afrihost service and go to axxess - just because of the 3 month rollover.
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They are not cancelling Double data. Just charging for it. R99p/m.
 
Hi,

Looks like im going to jump the ship for Mobile now, Time to test axxess now. R139 for 4GB. Sorry afrihost. But I will still keep my uncapped with u ;)
 
RichardG said:
Premium bolt-on :)
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True however for R680 I'm getting 4Mb line with 150GB(2 for 1 top ups and a soft cap) and 1.5GB mobile data(500MB paid for, 500MB double data and 500MB free from AF+)

That's what Plus+ can do if you think about it right. So for R100 less than my business uncapped account(true I was drastically under utilizing it) I'm still getting unshaped plus 1.5GB of mobile data
 
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flbjhb said:
So finally they will be stopping double mobile data. Guess thats a signal to cancel the afrihost service and go to axxess - just because of the 3 month rollover.
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Yip, i got my sim card on Monday, and yesterday afternoon late i got the mail from gian, so whats the point of staying?
And they come with the crap how they basically subsidising us cause we are paying too little, BS man!

And anyway, the MTN signal is horrible where I stay, no copper, so what now?
 
jbellard said:
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We were hoping that as we grew our overall volume of GBs used, our cost per GB would come down enough so we would be able to keep offering Double Data.

However, our wholesale cost has unfortunately not come down to a point where we can come close to break even - Our cost per GB is still well above the effective rate you pay us.

This means we have no choice but to end the Double Mobile Data on the 31st of December as communicated over the course of the last year.

Is there a Silver Lining?

Yes. You can still keep Double Mobile Data on a mobile package of your choice if you have Afrihost Plus+.

I do realise this means you will have to pay more but unfortunately it is the only way we can still manage to offer Double Data and even come close to breaking even.

Fortunately with Afrihost Plus+ you do get other mobile data perks (such as an extra 500MB of Mobile Data AND 2-for-1 Mobile Data topups anytime of the month) so I sincerely believe the R99 is well worth the value you get.

But they keep double up data for ADSL..!!

Forcing people to now buy the new Afrihost plus+ that has just been released.

it seem there is not a good uptake of Afrihost Plus+, now they start forcing users to get the Afrihost Plus+, so that they can say, "see there, it was a very succesfull launce"

I bought a wifi mobile unit from afrihost that can only be used on afrihost network. Already tried another sim and it does not work unless I use an MTN sim linked to afrihost.

Afrihost please supply me the software to remove the block on the wifi mobile unit if I decide not to continue with your services.

(NB: I fully understand your point that you cannot subsidise anymore, but at least then put me in situation to use another service provider with my hardware I fully paid for)
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update the APN


edit: saw it was already mentioned
 
Chevron said:
They are not cancelling Double data. Just charging for it. R99p/m.
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Thanks at least somebody with reason. It seems to be true nobody in this country is able to do the most primitive accounting this I had to learn already. And this horrible driving around Joburg must be the altitude, lack of oxygen...

Afrihost raised the price for the 20GB mobile data by 100R but also halfed the price for data topups. Which are with 5ct/MB still not reasonable priced. It is pretty mean towards all with smaller packages, but thats life probably that those with smaller packages.....
but I disgress back to topic. :whistle:

Is there any other prepaid ,fullspeed, everytime available, working LTE in JBD option for somebody using 20BG or more so rollover is not important, but topup is?
I am afraid no.

Stuck with Asrihost then until something better shows up.

PS: Afrihost as daughter company of MTN the network owner cannot subsidize the costs for mobile data thats obvious. Either they pay too much and thats only a different way of profit transfer or they use "subsidize" in the way that it actually means "not optimised for maximum profit". I guess the second weas true and they now correct this.
For the mother company MTN it is frew lunch nothing else. Substracting the few customers who have not bought a MTN data product because of the Afrihost offer it is pure golden profit. The network exists and has capacity, it is a pity unused data doesn't corrode the equipment or they had to give it away for free or pay ppl to take it.
 
Ppretor said:
Yip, i got my sim card on Monday, and yesterday afternoon late i got the mail from gian, so whats the point of staying?
And they come with the crap how they basically subsidising us cause we are paying too little, BS man!

And anyway, the MTN signal is horrible where I stay, no copper, so what now?
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Ag Shame. That is AH's problem how?
 
jbellard said:
buy buy afrihost..
service was anyway pathetic last couple months..

if they can subsidise ADSL and but not mobile.... no good practice.
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You obviously have no idea how Mobile Data vs ADSL Data works.

That is like saying ISP's can offer ADSL uncapped but not Mobile uncapped.

"No good practice."
 
It's going to be interesting to see what all the "Screw Afrihost - we're going to Axxess" people do when Axxess' newly started double data PROMOTION is also cancelled.
 
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Necropolis said:
It's going to be interesting to see what all the "Screw Afrihost - we're going to Axxess" people do when Axxess' newly started double data PROMOTION is also cancelled.
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Precisely.

On a similar note, I fail to grasp why many Afrihost customers react negatively, as if they are somehow being done in, or Afrihost is simply being greedy. I don't get it. They've been giving away their product below cost for more than a year. This is a reason to be pleased and grateful, not arrogantly be displeased with Afrihost. They ran such a great promotion for so long that people started to think about it as the norm - which it never was.
 
I think it trust most people believed that Afrihost were selling data at a real world non-inflated price...

I do NOT believe that Afrihost were selling data a a loss, slim or almost no margin yes but a loss? No way!

Their no free data prices are more expensive than almost all other similar offerings! Example 1GB = R99 but for R79 you can get 2GB from MWeb and get a free modem...

I think you are looking at this the wrong way...
 
JimM said:
I think it trust most people believed that Afrihost were selling data at a real world non-inflated price...

I do NOT believe that Afrihost were selling data a a loss, slim or almost no margin yes but a loss? No way!

Their no free data prices are more expensive than almost all other similar offerings! Example 1GB = R99 but for R79 you can get 2GB from MWeb and get a free modem...

I think you are looking at this the wrong way...
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Other providers can also be selling at a loss - although I doubt this is the case. It is possible though.

The problem with your theory is obvious. Given the way people here (and I assume elsewhere) react, it would not make sense for them to unnecessarily stop a profitable promotion (which is what you're arguing), effectively doubling their prices, and risk losing many clients. They would not do this from a business/financial point of view, unless they had no choice. Hence, I don't believe they have a choice - their marketing budget used for subsidising this promotion is depleted. These guys run a business and at some point have to make a profit from all products.

Like you pointed out, some other ISP's (not many though) sell data at cheaper rates than Afrihost, given that the double data is falling away. If this is the case, Afrihost is starting to become uncompetitive, and I expect them to drop their prices. It won't give the same incredible value that the double data promotion gave, but it would be competitive one again.

All will become clear in due time.
 
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JimM said:
I do NOT believe that Afrihost were selling data a a loss, slim or almost no margin yes but a loss? No way!
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Unless you know exactly what Afrihost's buy their bandwidth for there is no way that you can say that.
 
I get good value for money for mine. If an extra 6GB costs me R99, Ill keep it thanks.
 
What's worse is Afrihost is still advertising double mobile data on their website.
 
JimM said:
You're being quite pedantic but let's reword it... Only an idiot would run a business at a loss!

Only a real fool would run a loss-leader for over 12 months and then expect customers to stay!!
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They're not running the business at a loss, nobody said that. The business is quite obviously very profitable. They said that they are selling this one product at a loss. Companies do this all the time in order to win market share, they subsidise the cost of one product with the profits of another. In Afrihost's case, they bargained on two factors: the price of wholesale data coming down over time (a period of more than a year), and also on growing their client base to the extent that the price of wholesale data would further drop. They took a risk, hoped it would work out, and it did not work out quite as well as they hoped.

Anyway, I'm willing to bet that those who are vocal about the double data falling away are in the minority. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I'd like to think that most people understand that this was a promotion, i.e. it would come to an end. The end is now (unfortunately), and so I'm quite surprised that many here are up in arms about this.
 
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