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Question of the Day: Have you ever been scammed?
Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt2)
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Reaper1242
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Dear jebus. I'm so tired of this guy.
So not only are you a troll who's only purpose here is to cause problems but you're also someone who doesn't understand fair play. It's guys like you who are abusing the system put in place to give us fairly decent experience that cause all the problems in the first place. You also have zero grasp of the difference between shaping and throttling.
What the hell makes you so special that you don't have to follow the rules like the rest of us?
And if you're no longer with Afrihost then why are you still posting in their forum? Go and harass whichever ISP has been lucky enough to inherit you.
And so ends my rant.
Edit: I see that he says that AfriMan terminated his account. Thanks for that AfriMan. At least that's one less abuser screwing it all up for the rest of us.
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Go to ClientZone and cancel the Line product. You'll get three options - Cancel Line, Transfer to Telkom and Relocate Line. The Relocate line also just moves your line back to Telkom, but you can specify a date which you'd prefer for that to happen
Shaping is not implemented based on your individual usage - as in a punitive measure. We shape only when demand warrants shaping to match our available capacity. We then start shaping clients based on their usage pattern profile - so that we can shape as few clients as possible to achieve the maximum effect.
vicv
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Go to ClientZone and cancel the Line product. You'll get three options - Cancel Line, Transfer to Telkom and Relocate Line. The Relocate line also just moves your line back to Telkom, but you can specify a date which you'd prefer for that to happen
I see it says it can take up to 5 business days to move back to Telkom. Should I cancel the line a bit earlier than the actual move?
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Fudzy
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But you said:
AfriMan said:
Which implies that the person who downloads more aggressively is penalised doesn't it?
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
So, here's a question for you: Anyone on uncapped in Jo'burg currently shaped less severely than what has become the daytime normal 18.8% Download/ 6.25% P2P? If yes, I think you and I need to have a talk over how your system classifies my account...
Pho3nix
The Legend
Lol +1. Upgraded one account to business uncapped and it seems better. Losing packets of data though for some reason since...
It blows me away how people have not yet read or realized that SHAPING IS NOT BOUND TO YOUR USAGE!!!!!!!!!!
It's bound to the load on the network and secondly on your usage! C'mon people! It is possible to have used 0GB for the month and still be shaped if the load on the network is high enough.
It's bound to the load on the network and secondly on your usage! C'mon people! It is possible to have used 0GB for the month and still be shaped if the load on the network is high enough.
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Fudzy
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I thought that too till AfriMan said this:
Which how I read it, indicates if you are an aggressive user more shaping is applied to you more than someone who doesn't download as much.
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
You do understand that I'm questioning the severity of the shaping I'm seeing - I saw the same 18.8/6.25 briefly yesterday afternoon - in relation to my light usage right? Right?
You probably wouldn't be quite so blown away if you actually bothered to read what was posted.
I think that's probably best to allow a few extra days - though it should be set to go on your required date
A penalty would imply that when you reach a certain amount which we consider abusive, we shape you accordingly, as other ISP's do when they use rolling windows and thresholds. That means whether there is spare capacity or not - that individual user is shaped or throttled until their satisfy the conditions of that policy , e.g. dropping below a certain threshold total at a later stage.
We only shape when demand on the whole network is higher than our available resources - otherwise we don't shape any users that we don't have to
Like I said, when the demand is high enough - then we have to shape more users. If that still does not bring demand to acceptable levels (acceptable meaning that which does not induce any latency on the network) then we may have to shape as many users on the network (and potentially all of them) to the absolute maximum to ensure that we can provide the best overall experience to everyone from Capped & Business to Uncapped.
That would be the case under more "normal" circumstances and it's the principle that the system is built on. However with demand far exceeding capacity at times, it's sometimes necessary to shape almost all our Uncapped users on the maximum policy to manage demand. We're doing everything we can to avoid doing this, but at peak times I have seen that this is the case
HapticSimian
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That's not what I asked.
You shouldn't be experiencing packet loss or latency (which generally go together). Have you seen this on an MTR test?
Please drop me a PM
Maybe you should drop me a PM and ask in more detail - I'm pretty I answered your question there
Pho3nix
The Legend
You shouldn't be experiencing packet loss or latency (which generally go together). Have you seen this on an MTR test?
Please drop me a PM
MTR test? Will pop you a PM when I get home
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
Maybe you should drop me a PM and ask in more detail - I'm pretty I answered your question there
Nah, dude. I'd prefer discussions to remain visible for everyone's benefit. I'm asking an incredibly simple question: are there people on home uncapped (4mb, if you want to get specific) on your Jo'burg IPC, who are currently shaped less severely than 18.8/6.25? It's a yes/no kind of deal...
If yes, I would then like to drop you a PM with my account name so that you can check whether your classification of my account lines up with my current and historic usage. If no, meaning all Jo'burg home uncapped users are presently shaped to 18.8/6.25 or worse, then so be it. As an ancillary question: how fine is your system's regional differentiation... is it as simple as being on the northern, south-western on eastern IPC, or is it more finely divided up?
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