Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt2)

[Paul Hjul]

So then throttling isn't a penalty either by that definition.

I have never said throttling in and of itself is a penalty - HOWEVER describing a person as an "abuser" and consequent upon that "abuse" throttling their connection speed is a penalty - a punishment for allegedly "breaking a rule" imposed by the ISP.
Throttling however requires that the softcap type limits or policies be published and you then can't call the service unthrottled.

 

[Orihalcon]

Perhaps penalty is the wrong word but heavier users are more affected by shaping than lighter ones, correct?

The word penalty notwithstanding, heavier users do get shaped first yes.

 

[AfriGuy]

Perhaps penalty is the wrong word but heavier users are more affected by shaping than lighter ones, correct?

As I said, for the moment they are yes - and we aren't happy about it either.
With the roll out of the increased capacity shaping should ease up for most of the queries that we're seeing here.

 

[Necuno]

I have never said throttling in and of itself is a penalty - HOWEVER describing a person as an "abuser" and consequent upon that "abuse" throttling their connection speed is a penalty - a punishment for allegedly "breaking a rule" imposed by the ISP.
Throttling however requires that the softcap type limits or policies be published and you then can't call the service unthrottled.

Crimen iniuriae. Would be interisting if someone brought a case, if possible, againts an ISP for this.

 

[Fudzy]

I have never said throttling in and of itself is a penalty - HOWEVER describing a person as an "abuser" and consequent upon that "abuse" throttling their connection speed is a penalty - a punishment for allegedly "breaking a rule" imposed by the ISP.
Throttling however requires that the softcap type limits or policies be published and you then can't call the service unthrottled.

Agreed, but then anyone who breaches an AUP is still considered an abuser in my books. The limits and conditions of that AUP should be clearly defined of course.

 

[Fudzy]

Crimen iniuriae. Would be interisting if someone brought a case, if possible, againts an ISP for this.

Crimen what?

 

[aktor]

Crimen iniuriae. Would be interisting if someone brought a case, if possible, againts an ISP for this.

..... I.... what.... just, what....
No judge is going to take a crimen injuria charge seriously for that. Neither would anyone else.
Just, no.

 

[Paul Hjul]

Crimen iniuriae. Would be interisting if someone brought a case, if possible, againts an ISP for this.

if they published the description such as to name a little old granny then maybe
but the conduct really is within the scope of insult to person of a barely civil nature and even there barely

what would be quite imaginative would be to go the cease and desist and interdict route - I am not advocating such a course for want of exceeding a de minimus standard, but it is more than of a little academic interest to me

 

[AfriFail]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

 

[Paul Hjul]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

wtf dude?
if you want an unshaped service Afrihost business does that for you - so paying a VPN provider rather than the extra to Afrihost is simply to be a manipulative schmuck


Now on the indication of you intention there is abuse - intentionally seeking to by-pass the network demand management systems for that purpose -- see the AUP, common sense and international best practice.

 

[IziWhatNow]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

Thank you for bypassing the AUP and contributing to the problem

 

[AfriGuy]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

Bypassing shaping on our network isn't cool That's why our AUP is in place and protects all of our users.

 

[Orihalcon]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

Thank you for contributing to the problem. Idiot.

 

[Fudzy]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

Lol, really? I'm glad you're not on MWeb

 

[Paul Hjul]

Bypassing shaping on our network isn't cool That's why our AUP is in place and protects all of our users.

you see another reason there is a need for a dog

unleash the hell hounds on such people ...

 

[curiouswanderer]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

new_in_za2, is that you?

 

[Conack]

Perhaps his IP could be leaked to Afriman?
Save everyone a lot of hassle to track him down.

 

[Orihalcon]

new_in_za2, is that you?

My thought exactly

 

[nerf]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

You shouldve got the business account,

I read these forums and some people just want to rip as much data as possible for as cheap as possible, if they want torrents all day at full speed get the damm business account

 

[pjjdp]

Enough is enough, got a secure VPN service to run my P2P through so I can also join the top abusers list on the webpage.

P2P currently cruising along at 1MB/s

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