Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt3)

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Ol' Mean Bastid said:
Jozi
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Thought so.
Hopefully soon we will also get some additional capacity.

As it is I don't download this time in the evenings. My downloads are scheduled froom 00:00 - 06:00.

I do game in the evenings, but luckily that is real time service.

:)
 
It's 2100 on a SATURDAY NIGHT and I am shaped at 25% - tomorrow I cancel, I've had enough of this ***.
 
Vorastra said:
Holy balls Afriman, that shaping policy.

Shaping Policy: 50% Download/ 50% P2P

Not exactly what a new user of not even a month, wants to see.
Care to explain?
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The explanation is you're paying for a shaped product, and you're unfortunate enough to not be in the North. Also 50% shaping isn't bad, come back when you've got 12 and 6%.
 
vicv said:
The explanation is you're paying for a shaped product, and you're unfortunate enough to not be in the North. Also 50% shaping isn't bad, come back when you've got 12 and 6%.
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That's all I've been having. And yes, it does suck.
 
:confused:Hi all, I'm in PE and 750 m from a DSLAM but slow as hell this morning. Any idea about these results?
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\ www.afrihost.co.za

Tracing route to www.afrihost.co.za [197.242.144.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 357 ms 234 ms 260 ms 105-237-62-1-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.237.6
2.1]
3 237 ms 239 ms 200 ms 41.181.221.254
4 443 ms 472 ms 203 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-c.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.19
8.188]
5 419 ms 177 ms 141 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 364 ms 303 ms 404 ms ct-cr-2.za--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.134]

7 265 ms 132 ms 211 ms rb-cr-1.za--ct-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.69]

8 345 ms 367 ms 565 ms 196.44.31.97
9 484 ms 314 ms 295 ms ge10-1-9sub0.te3.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.31
.220.12]
10 532 ms 446 ms 244 ms tengigabitethernet9-1.gw20.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.n
et [196.31.220.25]
11 682 ms 593 ms 601 ms tengigabitethernet5-2.hr16.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.n
et [196.31.63.206]
12 240 ms 304 ms 536 ms vlan9.ah-ha-2.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.30.42.133]

13 * 672 ms 642 ms cms-gm.afrihost.com [197.242.144.102]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\
 
pedruid said:
:confused:Hi all, I'm in PE and 750 m from a DSLAM but slow as hell this morning. Any idea about these results?
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\ www.afrihost.co.za

Tracing route to www.afrihost.co.za [197.242.144.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 357 ms 234 ms 260 ms 105-237-62-1-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.237.6
2.1]
3 237 ms 239 ms 200 ms 41.181.221.254
4 443 ms 472 ms 203 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-c.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.19
8.188]
5 419 ms 177 ms 141 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 364 ms 303 ms 404 ms ct-cr-2.za--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.134]

7 265 ms 132 ms 211 ms rb-cr-1.za--ct-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.69]

8 345 ms 367 ms 565 ms 196.44.31.97
9 484 ms 314 ms 295 ms ge10-1-9sub0.te3.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.31
.220.12]
10 532 ms 446 ms 244 ms tengigabitethernet9-1.gw20.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.n
et [196.31.220.25]
11 682 ms 593 ms 601 ms tengigabitethernet5-2.hr16.jnb6.za.mtnbusiness.n
et [196.31.63.206]
12 240 ms 304 ms 536 ms vlan9.ah-ha-2.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.30.42.133]

13 * 672 ms 642 ms cms-gm.afrihost.com [197.242.144.102]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\
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Unfortunately those pings indicate an issue with your local exchange/router :/ They should be under 30ms at all times, but yours run into the 100s :(
Your best bet would be to contact Afrihost Support/Telkom and report a fault - then you will have to just wait it out. Sometimes it comes right by itself :D

Z
 
vicv said:
The explanation is you're paying for a shaped product, and you're unfortunate enough to not be in the North. Also 50% shaping isn't bad, come back when you've got 12 and 6%.
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I don't think you've understood what 50%, 12% and 6% is.

50% is worse than 12%...At 50, you're getting 50% of your speed, at 12% you're getting 88% of your speed...not the inverse...
 
Vorastra said:
I don't think you've understood what 50%, 12% and 6% is.

50% is worse than 12%...At 50, you're getting 50% of your speed, at 12% you're getting 88% of your speed...not the inverse...
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Nope :)

50% you are getting 50% line speed,
12.5% you are getting 12.5% line speed

Sorry, just to clear up, the percentage shown is the max line speed (for downloads or P2P) you will get while shaped on that policy. Two things to remember though. One, we still allow bursts through, depending on the nature of the data usage, but in general, the percentage will be fairly consistent while you are shaped. Two, real time services will always run at 100% of your line performance capability.

Now, one should also remember that the shaper is reactive, and not necessarily pro-active. When we reach our "soft" ceiling, it starts to apply shaping to the least amount of users it calculates will normalise usage, which can take a few minutes, and the policy is always intended not to be harsh or sudden. Sometimes, other factors come into play, more users increase their demand, or the bandwidth recovered doesn't satisfy the requirement to normalise performance. So there may be several consecutive actions until the balance is achieved. Sometimes the shaper takes away too much, and realises that we can relax shaping to give more capacity back to users on the network.
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AfriMan - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/439635-Afrihost-Uncapped-ADSL-Feedback?p=10567669&viewfull=1#post10567669
 
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Zertop said:
Nope :)

50% you are getting 50% line speed,
12.5% you are getting 12.5% line speed


AfriMan - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/439635-Afrihost-Uncapped-ADSL-Feedback?p=10567669&viewfull=1#post10567669
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So why when Im at 12.5% Im actually getting ~80% of my line speed....This 50% has been the slowest my line has been in the last 10 days. I've had 12.5 and 6 about 3 times in 10 days and it wasn't slow at all.

Which is weird then if it works the way you say.
 
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Vorastra said:
So why when Im at 12.5% Im actually getting ~80% of my line speed....This 50% has been the slowest my line has been in the last 10 days. I've had 12.5 and 6 about 3 times in 3 days and it wasn't slow at all.
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Hmm, shouldnt be? Only torrents and downloads will be shaped though... streaming/browsing wouldnt be affected
 
Vorastra said:
I don't think you've understood what 50%, 12% and 6% is.

50% is worse than 12%...At 50, you're getting 50% of your speed, at 12% you're getting 88% of your speed...not the inverse...
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The shaping amount is the percentage of line speed available to you. If you are getting slower speeds than indicated the problem could point to other factors like the server you are downloading from, the amount of seeders on a torrent or exchange congestion.
 
vicv said:
The shaping amount is the percentage of line speed available to you. If you are getting slower speeds than indicated the problem could point to other factors like the server you are downloading from, the amount of seeders on a torrent or exchange congestion.
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Well then I don't know. The reason I didn't think it was like that, as said above, is looking at the shaping 3 days last week which said 6.5% P2P but torrents were running at +100KB/s (2mbps line) which is weird. So my hands are in the air then.

If it is the way you say, then my bad for my earlier post.
 
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