Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt3)

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Your d.Gmt question is probably around stability. Running close to spec would probably cause more issues that the money they'd generate.

As for vdsl I remember reading that vdsl data is cheaper to provision. It's been mentioned in the forum before. I think it's because they excluded ipc so a more direct connection.

No, I was told that it's the mini-dslam port that is the limting factor.

My line stats say I can achieve 12mb:

Mode: ADSL_G.dmt
Traffic Type: ATM
Status: Up
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
Line Coding(Trellis): On On
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 303 250
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 140 215
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 172 123
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 12096 1224

Path 0 Path 1
Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
Rate (Kbps): 4096 512 0 0

I'm open to any more suggestions? :)
 
Same boat as you.

My attainable rate is 17mb/s, however the DP I connect to is only 4mb capable. Ah well. Have to wait for them to upgrade that.
 
No, I was told that it's the mini-dslam port that is the limting factor.

My line stats say I can achieve 12mb:

Mode: ADSL_G.dmt
Traffic Type: ATM
Status: Up
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
Line Coding(Trellis): On On
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 303 250
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 140 215
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 172 123
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 12096 1224

Path 0 Path 1
Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
Rate (Kbps): 4096 512 0 0

I'm open to any more suggestions? :)

That's something else then. Backhaul could definitely be a problem then.
 
Damn, I know the feeling I sat for 2 years fighting with Telkom everyday to upgrade our exchange.....
Finally happened, but slowly the congestion problem is returning here....

Luckily that only happens once a month for a few minutes :D

Im all good again haha

Z
 
That's something else then. Backhaul could definitely be a problem then.

Charl told me it's the card that only supports 4mb, never said anything about backhaul, a while back they dug the streets up for fiber so I doubt backhaul is an issue, it's a "software" thing, hence my original post.

Please find someone that is on G.dmt mode that is syncing higher than 4mb anywhere in SA, and I'll eat my hat, like Cope :D
 
Charl told me it's the card that only supports 4mb, never said anything about backhaul, a while back they dug the streets up for fiber so I doubt backhaul is an issue, it's a "software" thing, hence my original post.

Please find someone that is on G.dmt mode that is syncing higher than 4mb anywhere in SA, and I'll eat my hat, like Cope :D

D.Dmt works up to 6mb/s in SA. As supported by line as well btw.
 
D.Dmt works up to 6mb/s in SA. As supported by line as well btw.

I have already eaten my hat via PM :D

Now that I have evidence of other setup's above 4mb, only conclusion I can make is to believe Charl that my mini-dslam is the bottleneck :(

I put my request in for 40mb yonks ago (nevermind crying for 10mb), but according to TelkomZA, there are no immediate plans to upgrade to MSAN.

I guess I can only look on the bright side and be grateful I don't suffer from congestion!
 
I have increased latency on the third hop.

C:\Users\Dan>tracert google.com

Tracing route to google.com [74.125.136.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.2
2 7 ms 8 ms 6 ms 105-236-1-193-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.
1.193]
3 85 ms 112 ms 92 ms ipc-recieve-jh-2a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.178
.17]
4 103 ms 110 ms 112 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165
.115]
5 155 ms 102 ms 102 ms jh-dca-2.za--qux-q.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.31.18
0.4]
6 258 ms 253 ms 277 ms 41.181.180.10
7 261 ms 255 ms 258 ms ls-cr-2.uk--rb-cr-1.za-g.mtnns.net [196.44.31.11
4]
8 264 ms 263 ms 300 ms ls-cr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtnns.net [196.44.31.15
6]
9 313 ms 311 ms 232 ms ls-pr-1.uk--ls-cr-1.uk-a.mtn.net [209.212.111.83
]
10 265 ms 264 ms 266 ms 195.66.224.125
11 255 ms 280 ms 252 ms 209.85.245.112
12 272 ms 264 ms 260 ms 209.85.245.2
13 272 ms 253 ms 266 ms 209.85.240.28
14 283 ms 281 ms 280 ms 209.85.254.233
15 242 ms 236 ms 237 ms 216.239.49.28
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 260 ms 263 ms 269 ms ea-in-f100.1e100.net [74.125.136.100]

Trace complete.

Is this an Afrihost issue?
 
I have increased latency on the third hop.

C:\Users\Dan>tracert google.com

Tracing route to google.com [74.125.136.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.2
2 7 ms 8 ms 6 ms 105-236-1-193-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.
1.193]
3 85 ms 112 ms 92 ms ipc-recieve-jh-2a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.178
.17]
4 103 ms 110 ms 112 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165
.115]
5 155 ms 102 ms 102 ms jh-dca-2.za--qux-q.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.31.18
0.4]
6 258 ms 253 ms 277 ms 41.181.180.10
7 261 ms 255 ms 258 ms ls-cr-2.uk--rb-cr-1.za-g.mtnns.net [196.44.31.11
4]
8 264 ms 263 ms 300 ms ls-cr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtnns.net [196.44.31.15
6]
9 313 ms 311 ms 232 ms ls-pr-1.uk--ls-cr-1.uk-a.mtn.net [209.212.111.83
]
10 265 ms 264 ms 266 ms 195.66.224.125
11 255 ms 280 ms 252 ms 209.85.245.112
12 272 ms 264 ms 260 ms 209.85.245.2
13 272 ms 253 ms 266 ms 209.85.240.28
14 283 ms 281 ms 280 ms 209.85.254.233
15 242 ms 236 ms 237 ms 216.239.49.28
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 260 ms 263 ms 269 ms ea-in-f100.1e100.net [74.125.136.100]

Trace complete.

Is this an Afrihost issue?

Are you in the south?
 
I have higher than acceptable latency from the third hop.
It' been fine for a few weeks now, this just started this evening.

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What can I try to resolve this?

I'm in PTA east btw..
 
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I'm on capped and I also have high ping on the third hop, In JHB North.
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
(c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.



Tracing route to afrihost.co.za [197.242.144.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 105-236-6-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.
6.129]
3 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms 41.181.221.250
4 88 ms 90 ms 138 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165
.115]
5 62 ms 85 ms 66 ms jh-dca-2.za--qux-q.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.31.18
0.4]
6 48 ms 46 ms 45 ms jh-cr-2.za--jh-dca-2.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.22
4]
7 47 ms 90 ms 48 ms 196.44.31.99
8 65 ms 86 ms 64 ms 196.30.1.53
9 73 ms 74 ms 76 ms 196.31.220.25
10 * 75 ms 73 ms 196.31.63.206
11 103 ms 105 ms 113 ms 196.30.42.133
12 87 ms 90 ms 87 ms cms-gm.afrihost.com [197.242.144.102]

Trace complete.
 
I'm on capped and I also have high ping on the third hop, In JHB North.
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.2.9200]
(c) 2012 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.



Tracing route to afrihost.co.za [197.242.144.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 105-236-6-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.
6.129]
3 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms 41.181.221.250
4 88 ms 90 ms 138 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165
.115]
5 62 ms 85 ms 66 ms jh-dca-2.za--qux-q.za.mtnbusiness.net [196.31.18
0.4]
6 48 ms 46 ms 45 ms jh-cr-2.za--jh-dca-2.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.22
4]
7 47 ms 90 ms 48 ms 196.44.31.99
8 65 ms 86 ms 64 ms 196.30.1.53
9 73 ms 74 ms 76 ms 196.31.220.25
10 * 75 ms 73 ms 196.31.63.206
11 103 ms 105 ms 113 ms 196.30.42.133
12 87 ms 90 ms 87 ms cms-gm.afrihost.com [197.242.144.102]

Trace complete.

What's worrying, (and the way I read this is the 3rd hop is the IPC), capped has top priority on the network, and if that is experiencing contention, then AH (MTN) have hit the ceiling, but like I said, what's really worrying is that this is happening over the weekend when demand is supposed to be lower!

I'm hoping there's just an issue with the network somewhere, and there is an explanation about what's happening, and is temporary.

If that is the case, then that is a good thing as then I have faith that things will return to normal :)

I'm just very concerned (and is holding me back with me building faith in this MTN network), as I've lost count how many times MTN has had latency spikes on their network, and add authentication problems for more than 24 hours aswell) that this keeps happening and is making it very easy for me to stay away!
 
Been having horrible speed for the last 3 weeks:

Location: Johannesburg South

4Mbps Uncapped (Non-business)

Shaping Policy: No Shaping Applied

Tracing route to google.com [74.125.136.139]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms 105-236-1-193-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.
1.193]
3 9 ms 12 ms 10 ms ipc-recieve-jh-2a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.178
.17]
4 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms qux-jh-dca-2.za-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165
.115]
5 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms jh-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.16
5.114]
6 188 ms 188 ms 188 ms 41.181.180.10
7 238 ms 189 ms 188 ms ls-cr-2.uk--rb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.114]

8 268 ms 187 ms 188 ms ls-cr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtnns.net [196.44.31.15
6]
9 187 ms 187 ms * ls-pr-1.uk--ls-cr-1.uk-a.mtn.net [209.212.111.83
]
10 189 ms 188 ms 188 ms 195.66.224.125
11 194 ms 188 ms 188 ms 209.85.245.110
12 188 ms 199 ms 188 ms 209.85.253.196
13 206 ms 191 ms 191 ms 209.85.246.154
14 199 ms 199 ms 199 ms 209.85.254.233
15 199 ms 200 ms 199 ms 216.239.49.28
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 202 ms 189 ms 189 ms ea-in-f139.1e100.net [74.125.136.139]

Trace complete.

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On the d.Gmt issue. I have the same thing I think. Modem stats tells me u can get 12mbps. But max is 4mbps. But I am only using 2mbps at the moment. Might be that certain exchanges have lower limits based on number of users or something.
 
Please would you go into your router and post a screenshot of the status page :)

Z

Internet Connection Status: Connected
Default Gateway: ppp0
Preferred DNS Server: 196.7.7.7
Alternate DNS Server: 196.7.8.9
Downstream Line Rate (Kbps): 4992
Upstream Line Rate (Kbps): 640

........
 
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