Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback

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m.zakariyya.g said:
Download speed have worsened; Currently shaping is at 25% download speed
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Everybody is the internet as the same time.

It is like a highway. The more cars on the highway, the slower the traffic moves.

But let me guess, you are then going to reply with "They should increase the capacity!".

So with that logic, SANRAL should build 12 lane highways to cater for morning and home-time peaks and have almost empty highways for the in-between periods.

Downloading is not a spectator sport. Schedule you downloads for when you are sleeping.

All other services are unaffected.

Love watching Hulu!
 
Dnigma said:
Everybody is the internet as the same time.

It is like a highway. The more cars on the highway, the slower the traffic moves.

But let me guess, you are then going to reply with "They should increase the capacity!".

So with that logic, SANRAL should build 12 lane highways to cater for morning and home-time peaks and have almost empty highways for the in-between periods.

Downloading is not a spectator sport. Schedule you downloads for when you are sleeping.

All other services are unaffected.

Love watching Hulu!
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You nailed it.... perfect reply!
And ignore the flaming you going to get, but it's the honest to god's truth.

Next they will shout. "I pay for this bla bla bla...... I expect....."

In the end, ADSL is a "best effort" service.. and uncapped is Shaped!

Then you will hear reply's "But this IPS and that ISP........."

Summarized: If you are not happy with a service, stop nagging, cancel and go where you feel you get better worth for your money.

You can never please everyone!
 
Dnigma said:
Everybody is the internet as the same time.

It is like a highway. The more cars on the highway, the slower the traffic moves.

But let me guess, you are then going to reply with "They should increase the capacity!".

So with that logic, SANRAL should build 12 lane highways to cater for morning and home-time peaks and have almost empty highways for the in-between periods.

Downloading is not a spectator sport. Schedule you downloads for when you are sleeping.

All other services are unaffected.

Love watching Hulu!
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A slightly harsh way of putting it :)

Generally, it's fairly accurate though. IPC and bandwidth are totally different. IPC is capacity, 24 hours a day, and it's difficult for us to simply increase capacity when we have long periods where there network is mostly under-utilised. If we can encourage as many of our clients to schedule torrents and P2P during these times, this will free up the network during peak usage for the vital services that actually need real-time speeds. If not, then we do have to manage the demand accordingly, which results in shaping.

Think of it as beating or avoiding the traffic ;)
 
jeanres said:
I win!

Test conducted on 20/5/2013 13:31:07

Download Speed: 87822 kbps (10977.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 54980 kbps (6872.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 22 ms
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Don't make me test from work ;)
 
m.zakariyya.g said:
Haven't used internet in almost 48 hours but i continue to be shaped to 50% of my download speeds:mad:
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Pity you don't tell us your package and total GB's, I can't remember every posts details. The shaping depends on your GB's.
 
What sort of peer2peer speeds do you guys get on the normal uncapped accounts?

I'm on a Openweb Gamers King account, and my speeds after hours are 100% (non existent throughout the day) but I might need some downloading potential throughout the day in the coming weeks.

(10mb line)
Advice?
 
pXius said:
What sort of peer2peer speeds do you guys get on the normal uncapped accounts?

I'm on a Openweb Gamers King account, and my speeds after hours are 100% (non existent throughout the day) but I might need some downloading potential throughout the day in the coming weeks.

(10mb line)
Advice?
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Afrihost has a different approach.

It gives priority-no shaping to real-time and streaming services.
Downloads and p2p are shaped depending on IPC capacity and you overall download history.
There are times after midnight to early morning when there is no shaping on those protocols.

Priority-no shaping to real-time and streaming protocols.
Shaping to download and p2p protocols
 
pXius said:
What sort of peer2peer speeds do you guys get on the normal uncapped accounts?

I'm on a Openweb Gamers King account, and my speeds after hours are 100% (non existent throughout the day) but I might need some downloading potential throughout the day in the coming weeks.

(10mb line)
Advice?
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During the day? Capped or Business uncapped NOT uncapped consumer. It is shaped to hell and gone after using it. I can't give a figure because I don't know the cut-off points a guess would be over 50GB.
 
AfriMan said:
A slightly harsh way of putting it :)

Generally, it's fairly accurate though. IPC and bandwidth are totally different. IPC is capacity, 24 hours a day, and it's difficult for us to simply increase capacity when we have long periods where there network is mostly under-utilised. If we can encourage as many of our clients to schedule torrents and P2P during these times, this will free up the network during peak usage for the vital services that actually need real-time speeds. If not, then we do have to manage the demand accordingly, which results in shaping.

Think of it as beating or avoiding the traffic ;)
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I think we all understand this but could you maybe tell us which times are off-peak. Actual hours please.
 
Raysmith said:
I think we all understand this but could you maybe tell us which times are off-peak. Actual hours please.
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There are no fixed time slots as it is all dependant on network demand. So the times mentioned below may change as usage patterns change.

Over the last 2 weeks, off-peak times have between 10pm and 7am. That being said, please keep in mind that we start to relax shaping as demand decreases, so some accounts may still be shaped at 10pm, but most accounts are unshaped by midnight.
 
Afrihost Dev Team said:
There are no fixed time slots as it is all dependant on network demand. So the times mentioned below may change as usage patterns change.

Over the last 2 weeks, off-peak times have between 10pm and 7am. That being said, please keep in mind that we start to relax shaping as demand decreases, so some accounts may still be shaped at 10pm, but most accounts are unshaped by midnight.
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On the weekend I was being shaped at 1 in the morning.
 
I've done 9GB on a 1Meg line this month and I'm shaped at 25% on download and 12.5% on P2P :/
 
Sorry, just a question. How are these shaping policies implemented? Im on a 2Mbps uncapped account but on the clientzone i have the following message:



64.0GB DATA USED

Data Statistics
Data Used: 64.05 GB
Average Daily Usage: 3.05 GB
Average Monthly Usage: 2.07 GB

100% REALTIME
SPEED

Account Overview
Account Status: Account Active
Shaping Policy: 25% Download/ 6.5% P2P

I was on 50%/50% this morning and the only thing i downloaded, were a few linux distro updates. Now im sitting at 25% and my distro updates are crawling at a staggering 5kbp/s. Just wondering if i need to cut back on downloads? Or is it pure luck on who gets what when IPC is stretched out...
 
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Lostears said:
Sorry, just a question. How are these shaping policies implemented? Im on a 2Mbps uncapped account but on the clientzone i have the following message:



64.0GB DATA USED

Data Statistics
Data Used: 64.05 GB
Average Daily Usage: 3.05 GB
Average Monthly Usage: 2.07 GB

100% REALTIME
SPEED

Account Overview
Account Status: Account Active
Shaping Policy: 25% Download/ 6.5% P2P

I was on 50%/50% this morning and the only thing i downloaded, were a few linux distro updates. Now im sitting at 25% and my distro updates are crawling at a staggering 5kbp/s. Just wondering if i need to cut back on downloads? Or is it pure luck on who gets what when IPC is stretched out...
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That is a good question! All I have seen is "When the network is under pressure" shaping is implemented by shaping the high users (me! 130GB on a 2gig) and then moving down until pressure is not that bad..............
 
I was always under the impression that the shaping polcies would be deteremined based on each users download history. So users that were doing 150gigs on a 1Mbp/s line would be shaped vs the guy sitting on a 2Mbps line only doing 30gigs in a month. If this is not how the QoS policies are implemented and its just a luck of the draw when the IPC becomes stretched in your particular area, then im going to redo my sickbeard scripts and download 24/7. Some clarity is needed here from Afrihost on how the QoS policies are implemented.
 
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