Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback

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Just doesn't help if your support staff spins out the same answer all the time mainly trying to lay the blame on you as a customer and ignoring there is a problem

We certainly wouldn't want clients to feel we are laying blame on them under any circumstances. Our job is to look at and try every option until we get a solution that works from either our side or the client side. Sometimes our team can run out of ideas, but we encourage our guys to say so, so that it leaves room for assistance from more senior techs, or for the client themselves to suggest alternative routes. In many cases it's a question of trial and error, and in some cases that's a painful process of elimination.

As much as we'd like to simply fix or replace the product, the truth is we need your help to find the problem, as we can't always replicate the scenario. Your PC, your router, you telephone connection, your cabling, your local DSLAM, Telkom's backhaul from that exchange .... you get the idea.

However, if any of our consultants are saying things which do not sit right, or seem like fob off's because they're stuck, PM me, we'll track them down and see if they need more training. And we'll make sure someone else steps up to deliver the right support.
 
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No, that person was making no effort to help, as all they did was tell me to do what I had already expressed I had done. How is that remotely helpful? That is just blatant incompetence. I appreciate the fact that you work for afrihost, but really, this is an absolutely shocking way to deal with customers. If you cannot see that, this conversation is a waste time. At least the support staff was honest enough to say that there was nothing they could do, those handling the PR are being blatantly dishonest or are absolutely ignorant about the issues (but of course you are going to twist this into something pro-afrihost). Be honest, do you think it is acceptable for those handling PR to respond to the customers complaint without actually reading it properly? Please tell me how that helps anyone?

Just doesn't help if your support staff spins out the same answer all the time mainly trying to lay the blame on you as a customer and ignoring there is a problem

My experience
 
No, that person was making no effort to help, as all they did was tell me to do what I had already expressed I had done. How is that remotely helpful? That is just blatant incompetence. I appreciate the fact that you work for afrihost, but really, this is an absolutely shocking way to deal with customers. If you cannot see that, this conversation is a waste time. At least the support staff was honest enough to say that there was nothing they could do, those handling the PR are being blatantly dishonest or are absolutely ignorant about the issues (but of course you are going to twist this into something pro-afrihost). Be honest, do you think it is acceptable for those handling PR to respond to the customers complaint without actually reading it properly? Please tell me how that helps anyone?

Like you said, we're just going around in circles. Let's rather focus on the next step forward, if that's okay with you :)
 
I didn't say we are going around in circles, I said your PR department is incompetent and asked you if you thought how they were handling it was acceptable. Please stop twisting my words, I am not an idiot. If you give honest answers, you may keep a customer, if you continue with this ridiculous approach to PR, you will lose a customer. It's that simple.
 
Next step forward is to admit there is a serious problem

If we are talking about your particular scenario, yes, it was definitely not handled in the best possible manner, and there could be issues there that need to be looked at.

If you're saying Afrihost is in serious trouble - I don't agree.
 
I didn't say we are going around in circles, I said your PR department is incompetent and asked you if you thought how they were handling it was acceptable. Please stop twisting my words, I am not an idiot. If you give honest answers, you may keep a customer, if you continue with this ridiculous approach to PR, you will lose a customer. It's that simple.

I'm not going to say our PR people are incompetent. That's just not the truth. Our guys are dedicated, they work really hard and they give of their free time to help and empathise with clients, not to mention spending even more time thinking about how to give more back to clients. Sometimes it's a tough ride, but they do their best, and I think they're a truly awesome bunch!
 
Stop making it out like the entire network is collapsing,far from it,based on the number of posts compared to customer numbers i'd say many if not most are happier now
 
If doing their best is absolutely ignoring everything the customer says to you, I'm not sure how any company could find that to be good enough. As a customer, I certainly do not. If they want to give back to clients, especially those in Cape Town who still cannot fully enjoy the online experience, you should start with apologizing and offering refunds, or better yet, fix the problem (or at very least give an ETA on when the problem will be fixed). I'm sick of seeing all this pro-afrihost propaganda that is simply not true for those of us who actually want to do more than just browse the internet. I'd like to stream videos and play dota 2 (I used to have 180ms to europe, and ever since the switch I have consistently had over 350 ms, which is not playable). I'm not asking for anything unreasonable here, if anything I have an invested interest in afrihost being better than it's competition as it is cheaper.

I don't know how big your PR department is, but whoever was dealing with me on the facebook page was simply inadequate as they did not take the time to actually read my messages, yet responded anyway. It has left a very sour taste, regardless of if Afrihost actually sorts their issues out or not.
 
If doing their best is absolutely ignoring everything the customer says to you, I'm not sure how any company could find that to be good enough. As a customer, I certainly do not. If they want to give back to clients, especially those in Cape Town who still cannot fully enjoy the online experience, you should start with apologizing and offering refunds, or better yet, fix the problem (or at very least give an ETA on when the problem will be fixed). I'm sick of seeing all this pro-afrihost propaganda that is simply not true for those of us who actually want to do more than just browse the internet. I'd like to stream videos and play dota 2 (I used to have 180ms to europe, and ever since the switch I have consistently had over 350 ms, which is not playable). I'm not asking for anything unreasonable here, if anything I have an invested interest in afrihost being better than it's competition as it is cheaper.

I don't know how big your PR department is, but whoever was dealing with me on the facebook page was simply inadequate as they did not take the time to actually read my messages, yet responded anyway. It has left a very sour taste, regardless of if Afrihost actually sorts their issues out or not.

As I said, let's rather look toward the future, because there's nothing really to be gained here.
 
So for now, we're sticking with how things have been in the past, and since we reset all the threshold totals on the change, throttles are not kicking in just yet, and contention remains high. We've been in constant contact with our team and the people at MTN, and we may implement some other interim measures to alleviate the throughput issues.

Afriman (or anyone else really), please correct me if my understanding (see below) of the above comment is incorrect. I am trying to build-up a better understanding of the situation, hopefully to appease some of those looking for answers here in this thread but cannot make head or tail of it.

1.) Afrihost has assigned a finite amount of IPC capacity to uncapped users as of Friday whereas before we had the use of "all of it" as it were.
2.) Because the individual usage thresholds were all reset during the move to MTN, no-one has reached a high enough usage to actually be throttled as yet. Therefore, all us uncapped users are maxing out our allocated IPC, causing the low speeds.
3.) Once high-usage users start hitting their thresholds, they will be throttled, freeing up "uncapped IPC" and things will improve for non-throttled users.

If that is the case, then basically we need to just ride it out and hope that Afrihost have assigned enough IPC to uncapped users for when things "normalize".
 
I'm not sure why you think there is nothing to be gained by having an open, honest dialogue with a customer. You are getting feedback yet seem to not really care about the feedback in the slightest, as you not given any indication of actually acknowledging the issues. But again, the whole crux of the issue gets utterly ignored for some generic statement that doesn't actually solve any issues in the now. If you keep looking to the future without sorting out the issues now, you will lose customers.
 
Afriman (or anyone else really), please correct me if my understanding (see below) of the above comment is incorrect. I am trying to build-up a better understanding of the situation, hopefully to appease some of those looking for answers here in this thread but cannot make head or tail of it.

1.) Afrihost has assigned a finite amount of IPC capacity to uncapped users as of Friday whereas before we had the use of "all of it" as it were.
2.) Because the individual usage thresholds were all reset during the move to MTN, no-one has reached a high enough usage to actually be throttled as yet. Therefore, all us uncapped users are maxing out our allocated IPC, causing the low speeds.
3.) Once high-usage users start hitting their thresholds, they will be throttled, freeing up "uncapped IPC" and things will improve for non-throttled users.

If that is the case, then basically we need to just ride it out and hope that Afrihost have assigned enough IPC to uncapped users for when things "normalize".

Yes and No. We wanted to be generous and allow everyone a clean slate on the network, but it's clear that many users are using that as an opportunity to plunder the bandwidth. And perhaps one can't really blame them. We'll need to review the policies so that we can identify these high users and see what options are fair but effective in stemming their throughput so that everyone else can have a better shake.

It would be a too much to adopt the "wait and see" approach, so we'll be very pro-active in trying to find a better solution.

We've also planned massive IPC upgrades for as soon as Telkom can implement them in JHB, as well as CPT and DBN, and this will give the MTN network (if I'm not mistaken) some the biggest capacity of the networks outside of Telkom. Most of that will be devoted to Afrihost.
 
Not true!

Afrihost made a config change on there network few days ago.
You can buy and download Win8 just fine now.

Updates work perfect too, I am fully updated.

I just have to point it out with all the bull**** flying back and forth on this issue...

Afrihost have *NOTHING* to do with you being able to download Windows or not. The _ONLY_ company that's responsible for that is Microsoft. No one else.

If you have problems downloading Windows, you need to contact Microsoft to get the issue resolved. Afrihost *CANNOT* do anything about it.
 
AfriMan, you mentioned about corrective steps going forward. What about temporarily moving those of us experiencing problems back to an IS Uncapped Account until the issues are resolved? Or at least giving us say 50GB Capped data for the rest of this month only so that we can at least have normal speeds until issues are sorted out? Or something along those lines.
 
If I may add my 2c to this conversation: I recently (25th Oct) moved from MWEB to Afrihost. I was on the MWEB 1 Mbps uncapped package, and since Telkom upgraded my line to 2 Mbps, I wanted to move my data package to my max sync speed. Afrihost was about R100 cheaper on the 2 Mbps uncapped. Moreover, a friend had been on Afrihost since September, and he was very happy with the service (at least that's what he told me before the MTN switch; he's been overseas since then). So I cancelled with MWEB and switched to Afrihost. For the first few days, I was getting more or less my promised speed, and I was happy (excluding the news servers, which were crawling at 40 KB/s). My usage has been very light.

Since Thurs/Fri, my speeds have been maxing at 1 Mbps. Speedtests have been between 0.6 Mbps and 0.9 Mbps consistently.

My current situation is that I'm paying R100 more than I was on MWEB, and getting the same/worse internet experience. Am I to understand that this unfortunate situation is only temporary, and will be resolved in the coming weeks? I really don't want to jump ship without giving AH a proper chance, but I also don't want to wait around for weeks paying more for inferior internet.
 
If we are talking about your particular scenario, yes, it was definitely not handled in the best possible manner, and there could be issues there that need to be looked at.

If you're saying Afrihost is in serious trouble - I don't agree.

I don't say their is a problem with afrihost or that they're in trouble (I can even live with downgraded network for a while), I definitely say their is a problem the way support is handled. I as a customer have a issue and I basically constantly without fail get told the issue has been resolved which is not the case there is a issue with that ip or ip range. I am at least capable of finding a solution around the problem (using an international proxy(there are not that many in SA)), but many customer might not they will just get told there is no problem and the issue has been resolved while it is for those customers a problem. When a customer complains it is worth looking at (to assist the customer who in the end is paying your salary) not just brushing it of with a standard answer and consider the case closed. That is the problem afrihost must start admitting. I am not a heavy user of my uncapped (last month 10gigs) I don't normally need support as I can solve my own problems but when I try to point out a problem i don't like to be shoved around by cut and paste answers by incompetent staff who have no ffffing clue what they're talking about. Blaming the dns etc. That is just trying to bull**** the customer sorry that does not work for me. (In this case I think your support personnel has really pissed me of and i think you really should start looking at your recruitment or training. I accept that any company can have issues, but it is the way a company deals/manages issues and problems which makes all the difference and your fist line support staff is where your customer have interaction with the company if they stuff up they can damage your companies reputation
 
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