Afrihost Voice coming soon

Will handsets be offered/bundled in the near future? My upgrade with MTN is coming month-end and have my eye on a handset already soooooooooo...?

Then I might just hold on to old one for while longer...
 
My first thought was it would be a vox telecom VOIP solution ;)
 
Nikkel said:
Will handsets be offered/bundled in the near future? My upgrade with MTN is coming month-end and have my eye on a handset already soooooooooo...?

Then I might just hold on to old one for while longer...
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That's a little bit far ahead to foresee, but being able to offer services on one SIM (unlike dual sim with our data only mobile SIMs) could open a lot of possibilities. And if that happens, I am definitely switching to Android ;)
 
Now I'm lost, were MTN not going to cancel Afrihost's data offering the other day, and now Afrihost offering a voice service to go with their data service?
 
Wall said:
care to explain in greater detail?
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Possible scenario:

Afrihost uses MTN BS for their Fibre customers.

Afrihost uses Neotel (Vodacom) for their ADSL/VDSL customers.

Axxess uses MTN BS for all their ADSL/VDSL bundled customers. (Remember who owns Axxess)

This forces MTN BS to secure IPC from Telkom Wholesale.

Afrihost can claim that they are paying more for IPC for their FTTH related access than what is a rational and that it is non-discriminatory pricing because they are not running "blended" access traffic through the link.

Axxess, without FTTH customers, would be getting better pricing via MTN BS hence it becomes discriminatory.

For MTN BS to not discriminate between their treatment of Afrihost and Axxess, they would by default be discriminating against Afrihost.

Ergo... either Telkom reduces it's IPC pricing or introduces new IPC products to differentiate between copper and fibre.

And this is how Gian can be using MTN BS in his strategy...
 
Xzib1t said:
Now I'm lost, were MTN not going to cancel Afrihost's data offering the other day, and now Afrihost offering a voice service to go with their data service?
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No, MTN said they are going to stop supplying Afrihost "below cost"

Afrihost retorted that they "have never received anything below cost and have always paid market value"
 
Xzib1t said:
Now I'm lost, were MTN not going to cancel Afrihost's data offering the other day, and now Afrihost offering a voice service to go with their data service?
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MTN have never been wanting to cancel our services. Not sure what you're referring to here, but I think this should show that our relationship with MTN is as strong as ever :)
 
MickeyD said:
Possible scenario:

Afrihost uses MTN BS for their Fibre customers.

Afrihost uses Neotel (Vodacom) for their ADSL/VDSL customers.

Axxess uses MTN BS for all their ADSL/VDSL bundled customers. (Remember who owns Axxess)

This forces MTN BS to secure IPC from Telkom Wholesale.

Afrihost can claim that they are paying more for IPC for their FTTH related access than what is a rational and that it is non-discriminatory pricing because they are not running "blended" access traffic through the link.

Axxess, without FTTH customers, would be getting better pricing via MTN BS hence it becomes discriminatory.

For MTN BS to not discriminate between their treatment of Afrihost and Axxess, they would by default be discriminating against Afrihost.

Ergo... either Telkom reduces it's IPC pricing or introduces new IPC products to differentiate between copper and fibre.

And this is how Gian can be using MTN BS in his strategy...
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I think there's a lot of thought behind this, but it's not how we roll. Ultimately, when we move networks (hopefully later this year) we'll be using entirely new upstream providers (still to be confirmed once testing is complete) so we'd be negotiating our own IPC directly from Telkom. Our aim is to also position ourselves to offer more direct fibre products, and I think that's probably going to be the case so we are limited to Telkom or MTN fibre. I can't say exactly how this will work for now, but the intention is to be able to work with all the providers out there so clients have flexibility in the end and the maximum value we can offer them.
 
Been waiting a long time for this. Count me in.
 
[subscribes], I have been tied up to using a dual sim phone because of the data. What would make this a killer product is the automatic switching to VOIP when the Internet is fast enough.
 
AfriMan said:
I think there's a lot of thought behind this, but it's not how we roll. Ultimately, when we move networks (hopefully later this year) we'll be using entirely new upstream providers (still to be confirmed once testing is complete) so we'd be negotiating our own IPC directly from Telkom. Our aim is to also position ourselves to offer more direct fibre products, and I think that's probably going to be the case so we are limited to Telkom or MTN fibre. I can't say exactly how this will work for now, but the intention is to be able to work with all the providers out there so clients have flexibility in the end and the maximum value we can offer them.
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Interesting...
 
FlashSA said:
No, MTN said they are going to stop supplying Afrihost "below cost"

Afrihost retorted that they "have never received anything below cost and have always paid market value"
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From my understanding of this, I think it was all taken a little out of context. Mteto Nyati is also Afrihost's board chairman, and he definitely had no intention of implying that Afrihost receives preferential pricing. Not sure how it happened, but as Gian stated, we've only ever paid the price provided by MTN and to our knowledge it's the same as offered to other MTN clients, based on scale, volume etc.
 
konfab said:
[subscribes], I have been tied up to using a dual sim phone because of the data. What would make this a killer product is the automatic switching to VOIP when the Internet is fast enough.
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That's probably going to depend on your device setup. I don't think we're looking to launch any VOiP solutions at this stage.
 
AfriMan said:
From my understanding of this, I think it was all taken a little out of context. Mteto Nyati is also Afrihost's board chairman, and he definitely had no intention of implying that Afrihost receives preferential pricing. Not sure how it happened, but as Gian stated, we've only ever paid the price provided by MTN and to our knowledge it's the same as offered to other MTN clients, based on scale, volume etc.
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So where did the "cannot continue to subsidise afrihost" come from?
 
Sinbad said:
So where did the "cannot continue to subsidise afrihost" come from?
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I don't think any fingers can be pointed at AH for that debacle. They negotiated a price with MTN BS and that is what they pay. For MTN BS to issue any kind of message about the pricing was out of line.
 
MickeyD said:
I don't think any fingers can be pointed at AH for that debacle. They negotiated a price with MTN BS and that is what they pay. For MTN BS to issue any kind of message about the pricing was out of line.
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AfriMan said:
As I say, I'm not sure how that came about. Guess that's between the journalist and the person interviewed :(
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Indeed.

Serious foot-in-mouth somewhere along the line there.
 
MickeyD said:
I don't think any fingers can be pointed at AH for that debacle. They negotiated a price with MTN BS and that is what they pay. For MTN BS to issue any kind of message about the pricing was out of line.
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I don't think the intention was to cause a stir, after all MTN are our shareholders so it doesn't benefit them to cast aspersions on Afrihost. Somewhere, somehow, something went wrong there :(
 
AfriMan said:
That's a little bit far ahead to foresee, but being able to offer services on one SIM (unlike dual sim with our data only mobile SIMs) could open a lot of possibilities. And if that happens, I am definitely switching to Android ;)
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Cool!

So why "definately switching to Andriod"?
 
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