AI coding "assistants"

[s0lar]

Trying to hang with youngsters Do you even know what 280Km/h looks like? Knowing every beat every sound is your own doing? Nah I love cars, I love speed more. Coding is just a thing I have to do to get what I want.

I would never forget how that engine blew up but man was fun.

Sure Oom, sounds gif. All while smoking a texan plain and chugging cane for the pain? Good old days.. Am I right? I mean "Jackal65" say no more ...

 

[s0lar]

Interesting take on why we should still study in the AI era. If only to excersice analytical and critical thinking, cant find fault with that reasoning. Without that ability you do not have the ability to discern truth or see bias be it in your code or any other AI response.

 

[Kosmik]

I want to talk to a good developer about an idea I am actively building so no "please code this for me BS". I just need to know how to build a standard old school HTML website from early 1990s. I am working on a retro interface I want to host for all stuff. The hosting part I figured out I just haven't figured out the log on system. Why it is hard is I just want to get some modern security bolted on to it. I was thinking to use MyBB but I can't get it to host properly on the device I am planning to use it on.

Go research frames and pure html ie: no javascript, jquery or ajax if you want the genuine old html look and experiance.

 

[Kosmik]

Being smart doesn't fix an engine, being smart doesn't weld your burglar bars. A qualified electrician, plumber and mechanic will still have work 20 years from now. Coders? I doubt they will last another 5 years.

 

[xumwun]

Go research frames and pure html ie: no javascript, jquery or ajax if you want the genuine old html look and experiance.

Those are deprecated and might not work on modern browsers. Could possibly emulate it with iframes though.

 

[Jackal65]

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Prove me wrong, I am right ****ing here ready to eat **** and die, is AI fixing your toilet? welling your burglar bars? fixing your car? I want to see that robot try.

 

[s0lar]

Prove me wrong, I am right ****ing here ready to eat **** and die, is AI fixing your toilet? welling your burglar bars? fixing your car? I want to see that robot try.

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Problem is even I can wield a TIG/MIG, angle grinder and unblock a drain and I am not the most DIY guy. Everybody and their dog will want R200 a day will do this. With everybody doing this equals supply and demand. Like it or not you will be affected as well.

 

[Jackal65]

Problem is even I can wield a TIG/MIG, angle grinder and unblock a drain and I am not the most DIY guy. Everybody and their dog will want R200 a day will do this. With everybody doing this equals supply and demand. Like it or not you will be affected as well.

What about your car? can anyone do a rebuild from the ground up? If is so easy why do my brother in law and I sit with 12 cars waiting for parts? Just ****ing saying it is easy to unblock a toilet, but can you deal with pipe burst? purification systems? drain pipe collapse like I had a couple of months ago? Easy stuff is easy harder stuff remains hard

 

[s0lar]

What about your car? can anyone do a rebuild from the ground up? If is so easy why do my brother in law and I sit with 12 cars waiting for parts? Just ****ing saying it is easy to unblock a toilet, but can you deal with pipe burst? purification systems? drain pipe collapse like I had a couple of months ago? Easy stuff is easy harder stuff remains hard

Instead of thread derailment, here a sty to roll in.

https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/threads/will-ai-in-the-near-future-take-away-menial-jobs.1324400/

 

[konfab]

I want to talk to a good developer about an idea I am actively building so no "please code this for me BS". I just need to know how to build a standard old school HTML website from early 1990s. I am working on a retro interface I want to host for all stuff. The hosting part I figured out I just haven't figured out the log on system. Why it is hard is I just want to get some modern security bolted on to it. I was thinking to use MyBB but I can't get it to host properly on the device I am planning to use it on.

Because modern security is difficult.
Nothing wrong with making plain HTML sites, but that doesn't mean you need to use an old way of doing things for how said pages get served.

There are lots of ways to do login and authentication, but my experience is that it is better to find a complete framework that can do that stuff for you.

Django, Laraval or Ruby on Rails are good places to start.

 

[konfab]

Those are deprecated and might not work on modern browsers. Could possibly emulate it with iframes though.

Say what now?
One of the amazing things about modern browsers is that they actually support all the old sites. In fact, the opposite is true. If you go and make your site with "deprecated" software like jQuery, chances are it will work forever because it is so simple and has few dependencies.


And oh yes, Jquery is not deprecated in any way shape or form. It is still being maintained.


https://github.com/jquery/jquery

 

[xumwun]

Say what now?
One of the amazing things about modern browsers is that they actually support all the old sites. In fact, the opposite is true. If you go and make your site with "deprecated" software like jQuery, chances are it will work forever because it is so simple and has few dependencies.


And oh yes, Jquery is not deprecated in any way shape or form. It is still being maintained.
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https://github.com/jquery/jquery

<frameset> HTML frameset element - HTML | MDN

The <frameset> HTML element is used to contain <frame> elements.

developer.mozilla.org

 

[konfab]

<frameset> HTML frameset element - HTML | MDN

The <frameset> HTML element is used to contain <frame> elements.

developer.mozilla.org

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Following code still works perfectly. Biggest blocker would be X-frame-origins, but there would be nothing stopping you from loading up the html from your own server to avoid that.

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
    <title>Working Frameset Example</title>
</head>
<frameset cols="50%, 50%">
    <frame src="https://mybroadband.co.za" name="video_frame">
    <frame src="https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!1m18!1m12!1m3!1d155829.43105743477!2d-0.07632904550013891!3d51.5285582490807!2m3!1f0!2f0!3f0!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!3m3!1m2!1s0x47d8a00baf21de75%3A0x52963a5addd52a99!2sLondon%2C%20UK!5e0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1676646700000!5m2!1sen!2sus" name="map_frame">
</frameset>
</html>

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

On the subject of AI coding tools, is anyone using review bots like CodeRabbit or Github's built-in co-pilot tools?

We've been using CodeRabbit from earlier this year and in the beginning it wasn't all that useful but lately it has become a lot better. We don't trust it to solo review our PRs but it catches a lot of stupid typos and C&P errors which are sometimes easily missed by human reviewers.

We also have the option to to use Co-Pilot for reviews but the few times I tried it was significantly worse than CodeRabbit. The only issue I'm finding now is it misses things on the first pass and I often get it finding new things after it gets re-triggered after new code is pushed (in the previously submitted changes). Hopefully they can address this issue.

 

[gotaway]

On the subject of AI coding tools, is anyone using review bots like CodeRabbit or Github's built-in co-pilot tools?

We've been using CodeRabbit from earlier this year and in the beginning it wasn't all that useful but lately it has become a lot better. We don't trust it to solo review our PRs but it catches a lot of stupid typos and C&P errors which are sometimes easily missed by human reviewers.

We also have the option to to use Co-Pilot for reviews but the few times I tried it was significantly worse than CodeRabbit. The only issue I'm finding now is it misses things on the first pass and I often get it finding new things after it gets re-triggered after new code is pushed (in the previously submitted changes). Hopefully they can address this issue.

I’m using co-pilot to review pull requests for personal projects. Good first check

 

[Solarion]

Also many years coder here. I'm loving it. AI coding gives me spare time now to do other things and it takes the edge off.

 

[Solarion]

I want to talk to a good developer about an idea I am actively building so no "please code this for me BS". I just need to know how to build a standard old school HTML website from early 1990s. I am working on a retro interface I want to host for all stuff. The hosting part I figured out I just haven't figured out the log on system. Why it is hard is I just want to get some modern security bolted on to it. I was thinking to use MyBB but I can't get it to host properly on the device I am planning to use it on.

Speaking of!

 

[Jackal65]

Speaking of!

Don't worry I will be running mybb on debian-13.1.0 on a VM using NAT and my Python Script its now adapted to host it. I used ChatGPT Grok and qwen3 latest "local" worked well the UI is easy fast I am just learning firewall setup for debian-13. I will only be testing this and not running it fulltime. Highly recommend qwen3 it is really good model for Python.

 

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Interesting take on why we should still study in the AI era. If only to excersice analytical and critical thinking, cant find fault with that reasoning. Without that ability you do not have the ability to discern truth or see bias be it in your code or any other AI response.

This was very insightful thank you. It also provided some answers and a direction of where to go from here

 

[gotaway]

Don't worry I will be running mybb on debian-13.1.0 on a VM using NAT and my Python Script its now adapted to host it. I used ChatGPT Grok and qwen3 latest "local" worked well the UI is easy fast I am just learning firewall setup for debian-13. I will only be testing this and not running it fulltime. Highly recommend qwen3 it is really good model for Python.

This paragraph was regrettably a linguistic morass, thus compelling me to enlist the interpretive faculties of an artificial intelligence to restore coherence, thereby rendering the following with greater intelligibility:

I’m running MyBB on Debian 13.1.0 in a VM configured with NAT. My Python script has been adapted to handle hosting, and I’ve tested it successfully. I experimented with ChatGPT, Grok, and the latest Qwen3 locally; all performed well, with Qwen3 standing out in particular for Python-related tasks. The UI is responsive and straightforward. At the moment, I’m focusing on configuring the firewall on Debian 13. This setup is intended purely for testing and won’t be used as a full-time deployment.