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Sounds like a FW glitch that they know about and will get fixed soon .
Glad it works though
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Glad it works though
When will ShellySA have the Shelly 1 Plus available, eta?
Also will there be a Shelly 1L plus or only just the 1L no plus? Would be nice having the 1L allowing both Shelly cloud and HA simultaneously.
Pls advise
Also will there be a Shelly 1L plus or only just the 1L no plus? Would be nice having the 1L allowing both Shelly cloud and HA simultaneously.
Pls advise
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ShellySA no longer brings in Shelly devices . It's been Nology for close on 2 years .
Shelly are pretty secretive about their new products, so it'd be very tough to know about a Shelly 1L Plus as they haven't announced it. My guy would say that slowly but surely they're moving over from traditional to Plus, so there will be one. The question is therefore, when
Aah thanks - thought ShellySA was part of Nology/working for Nology. My bad.
I've emailed Nology re the 1 plus and they've said there is a purchase order active on the system/awaiting stock but can't provide any eta.
Starting out my Shelly journey some entry gates, but would rather get 1 plus's instead of 1's
I've emailed Nology re the 1 plus and they've said there is a purchase order active on the system/awaiting stock but can't provide any eta.
Starting out my Shelly journey some entry gates, but would rather get 1 plus's instead of 1's
So Shelly's responsive on their SA FB page.
FB says not yet bringing in the 1 plus as there isn't sufficient demand.
Sales@nology says theres a PO on the system but no eta for arrival
Amazon/Shelly_EU it is.
Not sure if it will work well on a driveway gate and garage door setup?
Driveway gate is 12v DC
Garage doors are either 12v or 24v DC I think
My (very weak and basic non tech) understanding is that the 1PM Plus is dc 24v+ and the 1 is 12v.
Also the dry contact setup on the 1 is needed for above purposes (needed or preferable, not sure)
Again, early days non technical person and steep learning curve so any guidance is very much appreciated.
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Ah don’t know you needed dry contact + 12v - I think you’re right
Does the Shelly products purchased locally actually have ICASA stickers / markings on the items themselves or only on the packaging?
Being involved in a different industry which also requires ICASA type approval on products, I know exactly what farce ICASA approval has become, they don\t actually do their own testing and they decide whether to accept test certificates from international labs only when they feel like it.
So is it actually worth buying Shelly stuff locally or can I buy from Europe, can anyone confirm whether the actual products have ICASA stickers on them?
Being involved in a different industry which also requires ICASA type approval on products, I know exactly what farce ICASA approval has become, they don\t actually do their own testing and they decide whether to accept test certificates from international labs only when they feel like it.
So is it actually worth buying Shelly stuff locally or can I buy from Europe, can anyone confirm whether the actual products have ICASA stickers on them?
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By default, an ICASA label needs to be on both device and packaging. However if you have valid reasoning, you can request an exemption from ICASA on the device. Shelly has this exemption and they’re on the packaging only. So no - they aren’t on the device.
It’s not so much the ICASA that’s the issue though - it’s the the LOA for each model. And if something happens (Ie a house burns down) and they really want to, they can track where you bought the device (If that’s the question)
On another note - have you got a price to bring in? Shipping is usually a killer
killerbyte
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Nology has all the Shelly products ICASA and NRCS certified.
So the ICASA stickers you see on any product brought in by Nology is legit. The NRCS approval takes the longest time and gives our PM Dept the most sleepless nights.
So the ICASA stickers you see on any product brought in by Nology is legit. The NRCS approval takes the longest time and gives our PM Dept the most sleepless nights.
killerbyte
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I will add that without that NRCS approval your insurance won't cover any damage caused by a faulty device. So if you bring in a Shelly or any other brand of smart relay that does not have that approval and it is proven to the be cause of an electrical fire then your insurance won't cover it.
Let's just say I want some of the Shelly units currently undergoing approval but I have to wait.
Tinuva
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I will be very impressed if a Shelly cause your house to burn down. Not saying it's impossible zjust that I will be very impressed. I had a couple of them burn themselves but nothing that can burn down a house.
Chances are 100x higher my solar install done professionally, will burn down my house, even behind the firewall in the garage.
Yes but insurance may argue that you are non compliant and thus in breach of the insurance requirements.
Even if you then challenge they would be entitled to apportion.
Remember the case of guy in KZN. He was shot? And then they refused to pay based on high blood.
Momentum will pay murder victim after social media outrage
After refusing to pay out a life cover claim to the family of a man who was shot dead in a Durban hijacking, insurer Momentum on Tuesday did an about-turn saying the family would receive all that was due to it.
www.timeslive.co.za
They were forced to pay out because of social media. Think you would get social media support?
I have only one non-compliant switch because its a 3 way switch (Treatlife Tuya Smart switch )and one outside plug a s55 (Sonoff Ewelink).
Am in fact replacing with a dumb switch and Shelly tomorrow. And one Sonoff ewelink s55 plug. Will replace that also tomorrow with a CBI ASC plug. Luckily have one still plus a few Shellys.
Otherwise my switches are:
1. Qualitel tuya smartlife switches
2. Dumb switches with Shelly
3. CBI ASC plugs
4. CBI ASC controllers/breakers
Thus have quite a few extra smart bulbs, Treatlife smart switches etc. that I need to sell.
Am in fact replacing with a dumb switch and Shelly tomorrow. And one Sonoff ewelink s55 plug. Will replace that also tomorrow with a CBI ASC plug. Luckily have one still plus a few Shellys.
Otherwise my switches are:
1. Qualitel tuya smartlife switches
2. Dumb switches with Shelly
3. CBI ASC plugs
4. CBI ASC controllers/breakers
Thus have quite a few extra smart bulbs, Treatlife smart switches etc. that I need to sell.
Tinuva
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You miss the point. I never argued the insurance point. I am just saying I will be very impressed if a Shelly burn down your house.Yes but insurance may argue that you are non compliant and thus in breach of the insurance requirements.
Even if you then challenge they would be entitled to apportion.
Remember the case of guy in KZN. He was shot? And then they refused to pay based on high blood.
Momentum will pay murder victim after social media outrage
After refusing to pay out a life cover claim to the family of a man who was shot dead in a Durban hijacking, insurer Momentum on Tuesday did an about-turn saying the family would receive all that was due to it.
They were forced to pay out because of social media. Think you would get social media support?
For me its highly unlikely indeed BUT if your house burns down because of your solar installation? My point is that insurance could decline a valid storm claim because you have a non-compliant IoT device.
Thats the point of insurance. For unlikely events.
I would not risk a million plus investment to save a few hundred rand.
I hear you.
What I hope is clear is my point that I am not worried about the non-certified IoT devices per se.
Clearly they are safe eg Shelly certified vs non-certified the same other than a sticker. Sonoffs are reliable and a few have burnt their Sonoffs using them with their geysers. LOL.
But we risk a valid claim arising from another issue being rejected based on our non-compliant device.
The insurance company will look to decline if claim is high eg whole house has to be replaced.
Hope you get where I am coming from?
What I hope is clear is my point that I am not worried about the non-certified IoT devices per se.
Clearly they are safe eg Shelly certified vs non-certified the same other than a sticker. Sonoffs are reliable and a few have burnt their Sonoffs using them with their geysers. LOL.
But we risk a valid claim arising from another issue being rejected based on our non-compliant device.
The insurance company will look to decline if claim is high eg whole house has to be replaced.
Hope you get where I am coming from?
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How would anyone know, if those sold in SA have no certification markings on them and look identical to those coming from EU?
Are you expected to save the packaging for your insurance in case there’s a claim one day?
How many other devices in our homes doesn’t carry certification, do you check every bulb, plug top, double adaptor, extention cable you buy, especially those you buy from the corner place which mostly stocks unknown brands, in other words direct China imports?
Are you expected to save the packaging for your insurance in case there’s a claim one day?
How many other devices in our homes doesn’t carry certification, do you check every bulb, plug top, double adaptor, extention cable you buy, especially those you buy from the corner place which mostly stocks unknown brands, in other words direct China imports?