AMD release new pricing

[Nokkie]

This will be true for another 4 days.... then the conroe comes out and everything you've known to be true will be destroyed.

As an example the Conroe E6600, THE THIRD SLOWEST CPU IN THE CONROE LAUNCH RANGE, beats the AMD FX-62 in benchmarks and tests including gaming, and will sell for between R3000 and R4000. The FX-62 goes for no less than R8000, probably more. It also runs cooler and with less power consumption under load.

Welcome to Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back

damnit it's like you have been driving merc all your live suddenly this bmw comes along cheaper and faster now you have to choose between the two

so you chose the bmw after two months merc brings another car out thats better than the m6 coupe the s500 ( damn! the choises that we have to make, heh)

 

[|tera|]

I have to agree with you intel freaks that the benchmarks speak for themselves, we get it, I get it. So? Do you have to say the same stuff on every page? This thread is about AMD price drops, not intel cpu's.

 

[Toxin]

7months of fame...

And in these 7 months Intel will own. Completely, utterly own. AMD has alot of ground to make up. Especially if your Flagship CPU can't stand up against the oppositions midrange CPU.

AMD has just moved to DDR2, where Intels been screwing around for ages.

Hey, don't get me wrong I've been with AMD since I've owned PCs. But face it Intels got them by the short an' curlies. * Hence the massive price drops we're seeing on their side.

*added for teraside

 

[Andre]

For me to upgrade to conroe it would mean buying:

1. New Motherboard (decent one will be about R2000)
2. New CPU (Let's say E6600 which should be about R3500, this BTW is an awesome chip)
3. New RAM (DDR2 costs about the same as DDR so let's say 2Gigs for R1600)

This is the exact config I'm looking at getting. I would have to throw out my 6800 AGP card though or build a new system and keep or sell the existing one.

 

[Nokkie]

And in these 7 months Intel will own. Completely, utterly own. AMD has alot of ground to make up. Especially if your Flagship CPU can't stand up against the oppositions midrange CPU.

AMD has just moved to DDR2, where Intels been screwing around for ages.

Hey, don't get me wrong I've been with AMD since I've owned PCs. But face it Intels got them by the short an' curlies. * Hence the massive price drops we're seeing on their side.

*added for teraside

its all true what you said toxin but I will always be a AMD fan know matter what other people say about them or what happens to them...

thou incase of emergancy should something go really wrong with them then i'll consider intel...

 

[Toxin]

its all true what you said toxin but I will always be a AMD fan know matter what other people say about them or what happens to them...

You and me both bro...... you and me both.

 

[MrE]

Toxin, just a suggestion,
..I have a stock Asus 7900gt with a Zalman vf900cu, the memory overclocks all the way to 904 (1800MHz+) AtiTool 0.25 stable, no artifacts, core to 537, same, ..but at 1.2v, and they were designed to run on 1.4v,
..I'm going to do the very simple volt mod with some conductive ink, and at 1.4v you can expect anywhere up to 650MHz, but I'll be happy with 600.. (up to 700 with 1.55v)(apparently >1.8v is too much)
They are the same cores as the gtx, and unless you are going to be running extremely high-res, the extra 256mb RAM doesn't do much..
Same performance as a stock 7900gtx at 650/1600, and that's not even pushing it..

 

[killadoob]

explain to me why memory sits 1100 and core 610 on my 6600 gt

why is the 7900 so much faster?

its not speed of core that for sure

 

[willirob]

7900 has all its pipelines and shaders enabled

 

[killadoob]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes thats true hahahah

so how do unlock my 6600gt pipes? or doesnt it come with more?

 

[Claymore]

and then we look into the future ... after two months from now amd will have a better cpu than the conroe again... so it goes on...

Much as I love AMD, they have nothing on their roadmaps that can compete with Conroe in the short term. Long term, looks like they're heading into multiple cores and technologies like co-processors (e.g. Java co-processors) and reverse-hyperthreading (making multiple cores look like a single really fast CPU). That sort of thing could work for them - they have a much better multi-core/processor bus interconnect than Intel does.

Conroe, of course, has not hit mass market yet - we don't know yet if there will be any compatibility issues at all.

For us consumers, it's all good; we get faster processors at lower prices.

 

[willirob]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes thats true hahahah

so how do unlock my 6600gt pipes? or doesnt it come with more?

Good question - NVTweak usually -though dont think 6600 has any more - so its 8 pipes vs 24 pipes

also 7900 has 256 bit memory interface - 6600 is 128 bit methinks

 

[MrE]

..and 8 vertex pipelines/units/shaders compared to the 6600gt's 3..
There is nothing to unlock on a 6600.

 

[Highflyer_GP]

Now my question is this: What would perform better in gaming? The above "new" setup with my 6600GT, or my original setup with a 7950GX2 (which would cost about R7000)?

Even if I had cash to burn I would still wait before buying into conroe. Since they don't support SLI and have only limited support for crossfire.

Think about it, you're going to be blowing 7 grand now on a current generation card. Why not keep that 7 grand aside and wait until conroe arrives, and in the mean time save up for a DX10 card that should be out by next year? You'll end up with a system that many will envy.

 

[flarkit]

I don't see any real mention of the dominance which AMD enjoyed on the 64-bit front for the past 18 months.

Perhaps this gives Intel fans a reason to be excited by the results from Conroe. I'm really pleased, that there's some good choices for both AMD and Intel supporters.

So what about those who support neither, simply choosing whatever seems to offer the most cost-effective performance?

If you don't wish to change your current socket-939 AMD platform, then the price reductions are great news and either a 4000+ or maybe an X2 4400+ will do the trick.

If you're using something older than 12 months and don't mind swapping motherboards, I'd say that Conroe is the way to go.

The difference may be seen in benchmarks. But IMO, that's about it. Real-world home usage will perform equivalently well on either platform. Buyers just need to take a reality check with their requirements. Benchmarking overclockers are justified with singing Conroe's praises. It doesn't belittle the capability of AMD 64 though.

 

[dualmeister]

I have to agree with you intel freaks that the benchmarks speak for themselves, we get it, I get it. So? Do you have to say the same stuff on every page? This thread is about AMD price drops, not intel cpu's.

Ordinarily I would agree, but I think the thread is showing why AMD has been FORCED to drop their prices

 

[Ap0c]

This should give some idea of prices....

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc..._Code=M&Product_Code=80169&Category_Code=AMDC