ANC or nothing

[semiautomatix]

I wouldn't refer to BEE as a difference.
Most of these BEE people are nett consumers of wealth instead of the nett wealth creators the country needs.
The only thing enterprising about the entrepreneurs is their ability to get connected.

Point is the people who really need help, have never got it. Unemployment and homelessness is not being reversed. Poverty is still just as bad. The only people benefiting are BEE/AA citizens, not the real man on the ground.

 

[Morgoth]

Point is the people who really need help, have never got it. Unemployment and homelessness is not being reversed. Poverty is still just as bad. The only people benefiting are BEE/AA citizens, not the real man on the ground.

sounds exactly to me like Nigeria, Angola, Zimbabwe, Kenya and the DRC!!! a ruling elite gets everything while his own people suffers, its called exploitation, corruption and redistribution of wealth/public treasury,

yup the ANC is going that route!

 

[dlk001]

Yup I can name many black BEE entrepreneurs who have had a positive difference. Thing is most of them weren't as destitute, to begin with, as the poor masses that have been left behind. Capitalism is a dirty game and the struggle really has been forgotten, hasn't it?

I see and know many non-BEE people who have a positive difference in their lives. Entrepreneurship is for selected few and not the sole measurement of a positive difference.

 

[zippy]

Oh you can disagree with me and vote ID or COPE, I'll respect that. However, if you vote for the ANC you're a mindless sheep.

Though I do note that any one who disagrees with your political point-of-view is "retarded". Very astute political mind you have there. But since you so eloquently put it that "South Africa is up s**t creek" it comes as no surprise you voted Labour. Fortunately for you the ANC may incompetent but due political process and some keens minds it means this country is actually no as far up that creek as the UK is right now, my little friend.

Just out of interest: you do realise where the National Party ended up being a part of (once they left the DA) don't you? I'll give you a hint: it's not the DA and yes, Kortbroek is a minister. Pot... kettle... black...

I never said anyone who disagrees with me is retarded. I said that imo the alternative parties to the ANC where "retarded". and the NATS did join the DA. When they split, not all NAT MP's went with them as far as I can recall. Might be wrong there, but Im sure the DA still had ex- NATS. Yes, the new NP then joined the ANC, but I have said, I never voted again for the ANC since the first election in 1994. By then I had become totally dissolusioned(sp ?) with SA parties. You never really knew who you where voting for.

In 1997, the National Party renamed itself the New National Party in order to distance itself from its past. The party merged with the Democratic Party (DP) to form the Democratic Alliance (DA) in 2000 but by 2001 the party had broken away from the Democratic Alliance. The Democratic Alliance retained its position of Official Opposition while the NNP started to disintegrate as a party. It lasted less than a decade before its federal council voted to dissolve the party on 9 April 2005, following a decision the previous year to merge with the ANC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_(South_Africa)

 

[Alan]

Fixed it for you.

So did Zanu PF for 2 decades

Of course anyone that doesnt agree with you has to be mindless, thats the only way to explain it.

Anyway, just yanking your chain. I wont vote for the ANC. I still think the DA are retards. Ever since they got the NATS on board. If they hadnt I might considered them a viable alternative. Right now South Africa is up s***t creek. The DA or the ANC. What a choice.

I don't like the DA but I'd vote for them over the ANC. You?

 

[zippy]

Only when he's right.

When was he right ? He's an *******. He is still alive ?

EDIT: I think i vaguely recall a funeral

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

There's no real Republican or Tory like party in South Africa. No doubt because they won't get any votes because they'd be portrayed as 'racists' or something to that effect.

And no, the FF+ and the AWB don't count

 

[zippy]

I don't like the DA but I'd vote for them over the ANC. You?

Every election, I thought about it, but then I remember that they thought merging with the NATs was a smart idea.

 

[zippy]

There's no real Republican or Tory like party in South Africa.

And no, the FF+ and the AWB don't count

I think the ANC is close to the US Republicans. They want all their mates to get rich.

 

[Morgoth]

When was he right ? He's an *******. He is still alive ?

EDIT: I think i vaguely recall a funeral

seems he was right about Black management and the ANC!!!
poor fella!

 

[DigitalSoldier]

By now every one of us has seen it practically that the Blacks cannot rule themselves. Give them guns and they will kill each other. They are good in nothing else but making noise, dancing, marrying many wives and indulging in sex. Let us all accept that the Black man is the symbol of poverty, mental inferiority, laziness and emotional incompetence. - PW. Botha,

it seems that every day that the ANC controls this country he is proven correct.

That speech by Botha is a fake though. When you search google for the PW Botha 1985 speech or rubicon speech you will only find the fake speech as its more sensational than the real thing.

IMO it was probably written by an ANC supporter

 

[R13...]

I think the ANC is close to the US Republicans. They want all their mates to get rich.

Very true, conservative gay bashers in public but soliciting man love in public rest rooms

 

[Morgoth]

I think the ANC is close to the US Republicans. They want all their mates to get rich.

but the US republicans actually take care of their country while they are at it, there is the difference.

 

[Morgoth]

That speech by Botha is a fake though. When you search google for the PW Botha 1985 speech or rubicon speech you will only find the fake speech as its more sensational than the real thing.

IMO it was probably written by an ANC supporter

yup, probably an Auto-Biography of an ANC supporter.

 

[R13...]

seems he was right about Black management and the ANC!!!
poor fella!

Yet that hero of yours appointed the most incompetent black sycophants to run the homelands.
Go figure!

 

[DigitalSoldier]

When was he right ? He's an *******. He is still alive ?

EDIT: I think i vaguely recall a funeral

Even your demigod Mandela/Madiba credits Botha as the one that started the process in ending Apartheid. During the 80's Botha did away with a lot of the Apartheid laws.

 

[Morgoth]

Even your demigod Mandela/Madiba credits Botha as the one that started the process in ending Apartheid. During the 80's Botha did away with a lot of the Apartheid laws.

yeah, while Mandela tried to blow a country apart Botha actually managed to reconcile and adapt!

 

[Morgoth]

Yet that hero of yours appointed the most incompetent black sycophants to run the homelands.
Go figure!

yeah those sycophants were an example of black leadership in all of Africa...
it is not as if he had the best options and well educated around him.

 

[semiautomatix]

Even your demigod Mandela/Madiba credits Botha as the one that started the process in ending Apartheid. During the 80's Botha did away with a lot of the Apartheid laws.

It's the same as Gorbachev. He was a communists through and through, he was chairman in CCCP. But he is the one praised as ending Soviet communism.

 

[zippy]

Even your demigod Mandela/Madiba credits Botha as the one that started the process in ending Apartheid. During the 80's Botha did away with a lot of the Apartheid laws.

The 80's ? That was positively the worse decade. That sonofabitch sent me to go fight his stupid war in Angola. If there is one politician I would have loved to put a bullet into, its PW, F***ING Botha.