ANC secures three wards in by-elections

Most people are stupid. Most politicians are useless, regardless of political party. This is not a uniquely South African problem. Some countries are worse than others. Occasionally they change for the better, or get worse.

Bad luck that at this point in time South Africa has an abundance of idiots across all walks of life.

Most western countries are fortunate that the majority of their idiots are in govt and that there is effectively gridlock in govt so that they cant do too much damage, but sometimes they cock things up on an epic scale in the form of a world war or financial crisis etc. Mostly its low key incompetence and they only screw up the lives of a few thousand people.
 
You voted for them so don't come crying when the k@k hits the fan.

What world do you live in where you cant complain after voting for a party??
I voted, yet I complain about my councillor (And other councillors from the party)
 
What world do you live in where you cant complain after voting for a party??
I voted, yet I complain about my councillor (And other councillors from the party)

Live on planet Didntvoteforstupid :twisted:
 
The residents of Witzenberg in Ceres are a bunch of retards (or at least 43.38% of them are)

Some clarity :

The commission explained that councillor Piet Waterboer in Ward 10 of Witzenberg (Ceres, Western Cape) was a DA councillor in the 2011 local government elections. However he defected to the ANC and in January 2013 won the ward for the ruling party.

During Wednesday's by-election another ANC councillor, Andries Smit, was elected with 43.38 percent of the vote, ensuring the party retained the ward.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/anc-retains-four-wards-in-by-election-1.1813728#.VNNfoZ2UfXo
 
Interesting to note that with the exception of Swellendam, the wins were not an outright majority. Meaning the majority did not want ANC, but fortunately for them, the opposition parties are too fractured and not united
 
Interesting to note that with the exception of Swellendam, the wins were not an outright majority. Meaning the majority did not want ANC, but fortunately for them, the opposition parties are too fractured and not united

Voter Apathy = "We'll never vote for the DA, EFF is a bunch of hooligans, we'll vote for the ANC when it improves."

In many instances you'll find that those who do vote are tiny in comparison to the number that does not vote.

Therefore, if a party like the DA wins&governs, it's inevitably a result of a protest vote, change for the sake of change, not because the people voted for it out of love and belief in the party. This is proved far much more by the genuine reactions of the people disgruntled by any DA run area - screams of "Racism, Apartheid etc" quickly sprout all over.

That's precisely what a DA gvt is experiencing in WC/CT.

In essence the ANC never loses anywhere, it's wins are merely deferred to a later stage. Same applies in Zim - ZANU&MDC. ZANU wins it's not rigging. Soon people will say ANC rigs, but it will get a two-thirds majority again in this country and control ALL provinces again. Mark my words.
 
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Interesting to note that with the exception of Swellendam, the wins were not an outright majority. Meaning the majority did not want ANC, but fortunately for them, the opposition parties are too fractured and not united

That implies people should be voting against the ANC, rather than for a political party that represents their views.
 
That implies people should be voting against the ANC, rather than for a political party that represents their views.

Agreed. Our hugely different backgrounds created the opposition landscape as it is. But none the less, its significant that a majority did not want the ANC. Something that I feel will happen in JHB in 2016. But the opposition parties would have to find some way of working together
 
Agreed. Our hugely different backgrounds created the opposition landscape as it is. But none the less, its significant that a majority did not want the ANC. Something that I feel will happen in JHB in 2016. But the opposition parties would have to find some way of working together

You cannot conclude that the majority did not want the ANC. The majority voted for parties that are not the ANC.
There is a subtle, but important difference.
 
It has been tried with JP Smith and Brett Herron. It gets nowhere.
Hell, Brett Herron has been slammed in the news a lot lately, and nothing has changed

DA's Herron to be grilled on MyCiTi

MAYCO member for Transport, Brett Herron, has been hauled into a provincial legislature standing committee meeting to answer questions about the city’s controversial plan to construct a MyCiTi bus route through Wynberg.

Herron will be under oath, and is set to face a barrage of questions from the South Road Families Association, Wynberg Taxi Association, Wynberg Residents and Ratepayers Association during the meeting on February 17.

The planned MyCiTi bus route, which will cut through residential properties and leave 26 families homeless, has angered the Wynberg and Plumstead communities, who have since turned to the ANC.

ANC MPL Cameron Dugmore has taken up the cudgels on behalf of the community.

“I will lobby the national government to suspend all funding for phase 2 of the MyCiTi project unless the city agrees to declare a moratorium on all evictions, convene a meeting between the mayor and residents in the affected communities and establish an inclusive task team to explore all alternative routes,” Dugmore said.

He said the city has been unable to produce any evidence that officials had conducted an impact study or costed the South Road/Brodie Couplet route.

“They have also not been able to produce any evidence that they have costed or done an impact study concerning the alternative routes proposed by the community.

“There has been no public consultation on phase 2. Brett Herron claims that the costing is fully disclosed.

“I challenge him to produce evidence. And why do they refuse to cost the alternative routes proposed?

“Instead, they seek to intimidate communities by demolishing vacant properties which adjoin South Road,” he said.

Herron failed to answer Dugmore’s questions when the Cape Times posed them to him yesterday.

His office instead referred to a statement Herron released on Tuesday, saying the “matters that Mr Dugmore keeps raising have been adequately dealt with before”.

On Tuesday, Herron condemned attempts to hamper MyCiTi funding.

“Certain groups, and in particular, the ANC, are trying everything to sabotage a project that will serve 1.4 million people who are in desperate need of public transport.

“The implementation of public infrastructure of this scale will affect some people’s lives, but this project is vital for the long-term sustainability of our city and the well-being of its people,” he maintained.

Dugmore responded: “There is no intention to sabotage anything. However, the DA’s arrogance and deception is the real risk to MyCiTi.”


http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/da-s-herron-to-be-grilled-on-myciti-1.1813560#.VNOYNZ2UfXo
 
That implies people should be voting against the ANC, rather than for a political party that represents their views.

Like it or not, but ward elections are winner takes all.

Anyway, I find that the by-election in Nala in the Free State is very interesting when one breaks it down to voting district level.

District 1: VF+ increase from 18.7% to 45.7%, DA drop from 71.5% to 47.5%

District 2: DA increase from 5.9% to 28.9%, ANC drop from 86.3% to 67.8%

District 3: DA increase from 11.3 to 16.9%, ANC drop from 82.5% to 79.5%

Logical conclusion here is that DA lost surprisingly many white votes to VF+ since 2011. But then again, this is a small farming town in the Free State, which is sort of the home turf of VF+.

DA's increase at ANC's expense in 1 of the districts is also noteworthy. They did not get nearly this much in the ward last year, so something with the by-election campaign must have been done well.
 
Been through the process before. He will not get fired.
I am a DA supporter/member, and it pains me to say this, but they too have useless and frustrating in high positions
They have to do something heinous to be fired. Even the DA councillor Iversen who assaulted a member of the public is still there more than one year later. Michael Toko the fraudster is still there. His face is on the contact list.
 
District 1: VF+ increase from 18.7% to 45.7%, DA drop from 71.5% to 47.5%

Logical conclusion here is that DA lost surprisingly many white votes to VF+ since 2011. But then again, this is a small farming town in the Free State, which is sort of the home turf of VF+.
I think APoc184, his family& his bras have deserted the DA. ;)
 
It's been an ANC ward since January 2013...

Western Cape:
• Ward 22 in City of Cape Town [Cape Town] Municipality – CPT with 14 415 registered voters. The ward was previously represented by the Democratic Alliance and became vacant as a result of the termination of the councillor’s membership by the party.
• Ward 10 in Witzenberg [Ceres] Municipality – WC022 with 3 374 registered voters. The ward was previously represented by the Democratic Alliance and became vacant as a result of the termination of the councillor’s membership by the party.

http://www.elections.org.za/content/new.aspx?id=2089
 
Western Cape:
• Ward 22 in City of Cape Town [Cape Town] Municipality – CPT with 14 415 registered voters. The ward was previously represented by the Democratic Alliance and became vacant as a result of the termination of the councillor’s membership by the party.
• Ward 10 in Witzenberg [Ceres] Municipality – WC022 with 3 374 registered voters. The ward was previously represented by the Democratic Alliance and became vacant as a result of the termination of the councillor’s membership by the party.

http://www.elections.org.za/content/new.aspx?id=2089

Your link is from 2013.
 
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