Andile going too far

Tikkop said:
Killing people also lead to less mouths to feed, resources spend on them, etc.

Therefore, murder is good, hey?
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Dropping a big ass bomb on Hiroshima gave them a great excuse to rebuild the place. Brilliant idea.
 
This week's friday thread arrived a day early...
 
Sinbad said:
Yes and replacing technological progress with lampshades made from human skin, and soap rendered from human fat.

Not really a valid comparison?
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No, but it's a completely valid reductio ad absurdum to show the foolishness of such kind of rationalising.

Zille's comment was offensive, unpatriotic and completely lacking in context.
 
River Shark said:
They have more important things to worry about than this twat! I would be disappointed if they did take time to respond to this fsck-witt's moronic ramblings.
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I guess you have a point.

He's still going to be in the news, though, whether they do anything about it or not. So...may as well do something about it.
(I won't lie, I'd be happy if he were to be slapped with a "yuge" fine -better yet, jailed :D )
 
C4Cat said:
He's saying the same thing Zille said about colonialism, almost exactly, just replacing colonialism with Holocaust and changing the so called positives. And he's doing it with the intention of showing what a stupid thing it was for her to say.
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Comparing the Holocaust to Colonialism? Can you explain how you got to that conclusion?
 
If it wasn't for the Nazi's we wouldn't have Fanta. so thanks Nazi's.

Typed in my shirt by great Nazi designer Hugo Boss.
 
C4Cat said:
He's saying the same thing Zille said about colonialism, almost exactly, just replacing colonialism with Holocaust and changing the so called positives. And he's doing it with the intention of showing what a stupid thing it was for her to say.
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Pull the other one.

He's racist trash that has unfortunately been given a platform to spew his nonsense.
 
Emjay said:
Comparing the Holocaust to Colonialism? Can you explain how you got to that conclusion?
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Well, I know, colonialism lasted a lot longer and more people were killed over that time over a far greater area of the planet, but you get this point...
 
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Well, I know, colonialism lasted a lot longer and more people were killed over that time over a far greater area of the planet, but you get this point...
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First: [Citation needed]

Second: If the amount of people being killed would concern an individual like yourself, you would be far more horrified with communism than with either of the two.

Third: South Africa's black population increased exponentially due to the technology and culture colonialism bought. Poland has almost no Jews, so you are doing a pi$$ poor job of a comparison.
 
Garson007 said:
It's not about the topic of discussion, it's about the rationalisation used in defending it.
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I get it. But celebrating the fact that Jews were killed, versus defending Colonialism are two very different analogies. He is not trying to make a point. He is openly being racist under the guide of pseudo intellectualism.

Edit: A better analogy would be to maybe make reference to the major medical breakthroughs that were (sadly) given to us by Nazi experimentation.
 
C4Cat said:
He's saying the same thing Zille said about colonialism, almost exactly, just replacing colonialism with Holocaust and changing the so called positives. And he's doing it with the intention of showing what a stupid thing it was for her to say.
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So it's basically ok to say these things because someone else did previously?
 
SA Jewish Board appalled by Andile Mngxitama holocaust tweet

Cape Town - The SA Jewish Board of Deputies (SAJBD) expressed shock on Thursday at a tweet by Black First Land First (BLF) leader Andile Mngxitama claiming that the legacy of the holocaust was not all negative.

In an apparent attempt to position himself back in the media spotlight, Mngxitama tweeted around 05:30: "For those claiming the legacy of the holocaust is ONLY negative think about the lampshades and Jewish soap."

The tweet was possibly a reference to Western Cape Premier Helen Zille's controversial tweets earlier in the year when she said the legacy of colonialism was not all negative. Zille subsequently apologised.

The SAJBD said it was appalled by his "crassly offensive, demeaning and hurtful" statement.

"With this ugly, jeering remark, Mngxitama has portrayed not just the deliberate murder of Jewish people but even the supposed reduction of their remains to everyday objects as something to be treated as a joke," said SAJBD president Mary Kluk.

"It is deeply distressing that anyone could so casually and publicly dehumanise an entire people in this way. How much more outrageous it is when emanating from a public figure who heads up a political voice."

'No relationship'

Kluk told News24 that she had absolutely no idea why Mngxitama had chosen to target Jewish people.

"I don't know where it would have come from. It was out of the blue. We have no relationship. It could come out of a personal interaction [with someone]."

She said his overt hateful tweet was an attack on the rights to dignity and equality of Jewish South Africans and should be strongly condemned by all citizens.

"Civilised society, and certainly South Africa with its stained history of human rights abuses, has no place for those who condone the merciless massacre of millions of innocent people in the most cruel way."

The SAJBD was considering its options in terms of action to take against him.

The SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) became aware of the tweet when News24 phoned on Thursday morning.

SAHRC spokesperson Gail Smith said they would provide comment later in the day.
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