Android >>> iOS

[Johnatan56]

Didn't read the news on this?

Telkom LIT box drops Netflix support — here’s what happened

Telkom abruptly dropped support for Netflix on its LIT streaming box at the end of September, leaving numerous customers furious and scrambling for alternatives.

mybroadband.co.za

I've given up on him, he argues like Swa.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Didn't read the news on this?

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/broa...rops-netflix-support-heres-what-happened.html
“The Telkom LIT box is an operator Android offering and, as such, an agreement was signed directly between Telkom and Netflix,” the company stated.

I see the problem now.
Sorry you bought your iPhone from Telkom, you can’t install Netflix

 

[DA-LION-619]

Nothing you've said would give me cause to stick to one OS over another. Documents, links, and videos, etc, could all be stored or indexed elsewhere.

At first glance, just like Tap to Pay is the same to those who’ve never used Apple Pay.

You can store and index somewhere else but then what copy a share url and forward it? Send it to yourself once on WhatsApp and you can forward it to multiple people or to an entire group chat.
Gmail, Outlook, Spark, Mail, none of them search as quickly as in WhatsApp and there’s no file size limitation that I’ve encountered.

That ability to search works both ways, I don’t need to resend a file or link, because it’s in your WhatsApp history just like mine.

Then consider most people’s first experience of the internet was through a smartphone. IM is an easier way to communicate, combined with the economic factors that WhatsApp is available through cheaper data bundles.
I can’t remember when I last got a normal phone call, WhatsApp is just the common default to most.

Now throw in the iOS specific features that save time. Natural language processing to pick out places and time. Creating calendar invites or getting directions to places. Figuring out who you normally message in the morning or midday so if you get caught up, you’re reminded.

Also the desktop app isn’t trying to do too much or compete with others, it has a good balance. I don’t need markdown support, I need search better than Skype, file uploads that work unlike in Teams, performance that isn’t horrid like Slack compared to the mobile app.

 

[backstreetboy]

I see the problem now.
Sorry you bought your iPhone from Telkom, you can’t install Netflix

You can't even see past your own nose...

 

[DA-LION-619]

You can't even see past your own nose...

Thanks, means a lot from Mr Penny-Wise Pound Foolish

Gave a fong kong cellphone repair shop R500. He said he fixed my phone - he didn't

What am I to do? Burn the place down?

mybroadband.co.za

 

[bwana]

At first glance, just like Tap to Pay is the same to those who’ve never used Apple Pay.

You can store and index somewhere else but then what copy a share url and forward it? Send it to yourself once on WhatsApp and you can forward it to multiple people or to an entire group chat.
Gmail, Outlook, Spark, Mail, none of them search as quickly as in WhatsApp and there’s no file size limitation that I’ve encountered.

That ability to search works both ways, I don’t need to resend a file or link, because it’s in your WhatsApp history just like mine.

Then consider most people’s first experience of the internet was through a smartphone. IM is an easier way to communicate, combined with the economic factors that WhatsApp is available through cheaper data bundles.
I can’t remember when I last got a normal phone call, WhatsApp is just the common default to most.

Now throw in the iOS specific features that save time. Natural language processing to pick out places and time. Creating calendar invites or getting directions to places. Figuring out who you normally message in the morning or midday so if you get caught up, you’re reminded.

Also the desktop app isn’t trying to do too much or compete with others, it has a good balance. I don’t need markdown support, I need search better than Skype, file uploads that work unlike in Teams, performance that isn’t horrid like Slack compared to the mobile app.

I get that Whatsapp is searchable but... wait for it... who cares. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Losing my whatsapp history would be an inconvenience but not enough of one to keep my from switching from Android to IOS or vice versa. I don't even waste icloud or google drive space by backing it up.

 

[Dolby]

I get that Whatsapp is searchable but... wait for it... who cares. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Losing my whatsapp history would be an inconvenience but not enough of one to keep my from switching from Android to IOS or vice versa. I don't even waste icloud or google drive space by backing it up.

It's not that it would prevent me from switching - it would be nice to know *upfront* where & how I'm going to have an inconvenience or challenge.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I get that Whatsapp is searchable but... wait for it... who cares. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Losing my whatsapp history would be an inconvenience but not enough of one to keep my from switching from Android to IOS or vice versa. I don't even waste icloud or google drive space by backing it up.

Exactly! Biggest waste of cloud storage.

I’ve even got the 7-day auto delete on which means I never need to worry about it.

Sadly can’t add that on groups.

 

[bwana]

It's not that it would prevent me from switching - it would be nice to know *upfront* where & how I'm going to have an inconvenience or challenge.

You're not going to switch and I don't think anyone here believes otherwise.

 

[geezer]

Are whatsapp conversations really that important to people that it would influence their decision not to change ecosystems?

Definitely not for me. I clear all my WhatsApp conversations at least once a week.

 

[Mosgi]

@Dolby

I use a Huawei GT/Iphone 13 Pro Max (3 months)

Recently switched over to IOS after 11 years on Android Flagships (Samsung exclusively, mostly the Note series, upgraded every 2 years). Before that I had an iPhone 4 which was replaced prematurely while suddenly realizing I was basically trying to run Android on it with the mods I'd installed.

I changed in November 21, largely because I didn't want a folding phone yet, and the only other option would have been the S21, which is about to be replaced so a definite no. Although I understand it still wins as the best smartphone for 2021, regardless of OS.

I regard myself as a superuser, having played around with Rom Upgrades, and even trying to build one myself back in the day.

First of all, I really love the phone inspite of what I say below, the Camera is just incredible (technically the processing) Took a cinematic video of my kid playing in a fountain and it looks like an advert at least on my phone. The battery life is basically a dream for those stuck to their phones.

Huawei GT
On the smartwatch, it feels a lot clunkier than before, just strange things such as cutting off bluetooth connection randomly or when you haven't used the app in a while. So no notifications at all, all fixed by opening the App, but still. I suspect that this has to do with RAM management. There are times when while connected notifications don't come in at all, and where the same ones keep popping up repeatedly.

I am not spending money on an Apple Watch since the Huawei cost me R1500 from Huawei and I'm not spending Apple watch money on smartwatch whose battery lasts only 18 hours (2 weeks on the Huawei) and needs to be charged every night, meaning obviously as with all lithium batteries will mean less overall life than other offerings.

Find my phone only really works with sound on, and even then is super quiet and nowhere near as effective as the "I'm over here" Scream from my old phone.

Everything else works as it should. Well except Truecaller shows the caller on my watch but not on my phone, unless I have a contact in my address book, which is when it works well, making it utterly redundant.

On the experience

Crossing over
Changing over was harder that it needed to be, the "Move to IOS" App was useless, after repeatedly trying to my data over with constant errors (spent way too much time trying - 4 hours), I gave up, and went manual for moving everything over. Having looked at some of the apps for moving over (whatsapp messages in particular), there were warnings that you should be cautious what you use, since there are some scams out there where you pay and it doesn't actually move anything over. Further paying $29 for moving over felt like a bit of a shake down to be frank, after having spent on a charging brick, good cover and screen protector. I already had a wireless charger, but its so slow it begs the question why they have even bothered, especially with the glass back trade off.

The Battery life is astonishingly good, basically went through a weekend with no charger, and while it was low on my return, seeing 60% odd at the end of day one was amazing. It should be noted that there was a substantial jump in battery performance from previous iterations of the phone.

The not so humble IOS

There are some objectively good elements within the OS, the screenshot experience is one of them, not having to keep it saved once you have used it (sent it on). Face ID is spectacular and the best in the business, off course until you are wearing a mask, which renders it quite useless.

There are also quite a lot that are infuriating:

The RAM management and instant freezing of an app once its not on your screen (I realise there are some work-arounds, but I'd have quite a lot open possibly enough to overwhelm the minimal ram they insist on putting in flagship).
So I use Chromecast on two TVs, and I now cant cast from a webpage and often screen mirroring just refuses to work and only gives me the option for airplay. There was an app for this, but I needed to keep the screen on and playing the content for the content to stream. So far worse than normal, renders the phone unusable while using it. So when I cast, I typically leave the app since my TV is processing data from my phone, not on IOS, it will hang, because you left the app and its now "frozen", happens on both YouTube and Netflix.

The widgets are cool, but nowhere compared to Android, especially if you have used NovaLauncher.

You cant place an app where you want to, its always up and to the left, which when you are holding the phone in your right hand is the worst possible place. There is however a nice feature that brings the screen down so you can reach.

Contextual back is one of the most egregious mishaps in the way in operates on IOS, this definitely needs a back permanent back button Id say from the bottom left corner (you know like the way its done on Android). Nope it seems everything you swipe from the bottom does the same thing. A quick summary of "how to go back" I have encountered:

• If it has a blurry background, then you tab the blur to go back
• If its a web page you swipe across the center to go back (or forward)
• Often the only way to go back in many apps is to tap the close or x or back option on the screen
• If you are in a picture in your gallery its a swipe down to go back or again on screen option, unless you are in an app like Tapatalk at which point its a tap anywhere on the screen but dont swipe down cos that does nothing

I have observed my mates who have pretty much exclusively been on IOS, and they do the wrong action more often that you would think, gets way worse after a few dops. This is of course in between them asking if anyone has an iPhone charger, which I'm convinced is an Apple proverb.

Lack of fingerprint sensor is ridiculous since we live in a masked work, Apple Pay is pretty much Samsung Pay so nothing there, except I could keep my mask on and not have to enter my password.

Design
I have rather big hands (humble brag), but the Max is unwieldy to use, Ive adored using the biggest phones ever since they started going mainstream. rounding off edges of the screen does a really good job at masking size.
The shape (squared off) is silly and digs into your hand uncomfortably on the Max,
It constantly feels like the phone might slip out of your hand,
There is virtually no benefit to going bigger outside of bigger battery and bigger screen (by this I mean in the OS)


To be frank for an OS doesn't make much sense, and I'd love to see if HarmonyOS is any better considering it was basically built overnight out of desperation, I wonder if they've done better. (For the iPhone users, HarmonyOS is what Huawei was forced to build quickly when they had to be shunned by Google services).

The Ecosystem
Costs way too much to get full use out of this feature. Maybe I'm too poor to understand, but once you've added the costs, and looked at what you could've done in the market, or a renovation, perhaps a first class 5 star trip to Greece for 2 weeks Ai, the Ecosystem can suck my left toe.

Its definitely designed around FOMO, yes people cant airdrop to me, but who cares. The biggest dealbreaker could be the ability to integrate to the more opensource type of smartdevices ill be putting in soon.

Summary
Its lovely, and has some really out of this world features. Its an expensive phone that makes sure everyone around you knows what it is. People do notice, and think you're probably rich.

But might switch back depending on what comes out with the S22 Ultra.

 

[Mosgi]

Tjasas that became a long article fast, TL;DR: Its nice, tread carefully, best part if you want to switch back, it'll be barely an inconvenience, you might even make a profit.

@Dolby

I use a Huawei GT/Iphone 13 Pro Max (3 months)

Recently switched over to IOS after 11 years on Android Flagships (Samsung exclusively, mostly the Note series, upgraded every 2 years). Before that I had an iPhone 4 which was replaced prematurely while suddenly realizing I was basically trying to run Android on it with the mods I'd installed.

I changed in November 21, largely because I didn't want a folding phone yet, and the only other option would have been the S21, which is about to be replaced so a definite no. Although I understand it still wins as the best smartphone for 2021, regardless of OS.

I regard myself as a superuser, having played around with Rom Upgrades, and even trying to build one myself back in the day.

First of all, I really love the phone inspite of what I say below, the Camera is just incredible (technically the processing) Took a cinematic video of my kid playing in a fountain and it looks like an advert at least on my phone. The battery life is basically a dream for those stuck to their phones.

Huawei GT
On the smartwatch, it feels a lot clunkier than before, just strange things such as cutting off bluetooth connection randomly or when you haven't used the app in a while. So no notifications at all, all fixed by opening the App, but still. I suspect that this has to do with RAM management. There are times when while connected notifications don't come in at all, and where the same ones keep popping up repeatedly.

I am not spending money on an Apple Watch since the Huawei cost me R1500 from Huawei and I'm not spending Apple watch money on smartwatch whose battery lasts only 18 hours (2 weeks on the Huawei) and needs to be charged every night, meaning obviously as with all lithium batteries will mean less overall life than other offerings.

Find my phone only really works with sound on, and even then is super quiet and nowhere near as effective as the "I'm over here" Scream from my old phone.

Everything else works as it should. Well except Truecaller shows the caller on my watch but not on my phone, unless I have a contact in my address book, which is when it works well, making it utterly redundant.

On the experience

Crossing over
Changing over was harder that it needed to be, the "Move to IOS" App was useless, after repeatedly trying to my data over with constant errors (spent way too much time trying - 4 hours), I gave up, and went manual for moving everything over. Having looked at some of the apps for moving over (whatsapp messages in particular), there were warnings that you should be cautious what you use, since there are some scams out there where you pay and it doesn't actually move anything over. Further paying $29 for moving over felt like a bit of a shake down to be frank, after having spent on a charging brick, good cover and screen protector. I already had a wireless charger, but its so slow it begs the question why they have even bothered, especially with the glass back trade off.

The Battery life is astonishingly good, basically went through a weekend with no charger, and while it was low on my return, seeing 60% odd at the end of day one was amazing. It should be noted that there was a substantial jump in battery performance from previous iterations of the phone.

The not so humble IOS

There are some objectively good elements within the OS, the screenshot experience is one of them, not having to keep it saved once you have used it (sent it on). Face ID is spectacular and the best in the business, off course until you are wearing a mask, which renders it quite useless.

There are also quite a lot that are infuriating:

The RAM management and instant freezing of an app once its not on your screen (I realise there are some work-arounds, but I'd have quite a lot open possibly enough to overwhelm the minimal ram they insist on putting in flagship).
So I use Chromecast on two TVs, and I now cant cast from a webpage and often screen mirroring just refuses to work and only gives me the option for airplay. There was an app for this, but I needed to keep the screen on and playing the content for the content to stream. So far worse than normal, renders the phone unusable while using it. So when I cast, I typically leave the app since my TV is processing data from my phone, not on IOS, it will hang, because you left the app and its now "frozen", happens on both YouTube and Netflix.

The widgets are cool, but nowhere compared to Android, especially if you have used NovaLauncher.

You cant place an app where you want to, its always up and to the left, which when you are holding the phone in your right hand is the worst possible place. There is however a nice feature that brings the screen down so you can reach.

Contextual back is one of the most egregious mishaps in the way in operates on IOS, this definitely needs a back permanent back button Id say from the bottom left corner (you know like the way its done on Android). Nope it seems everything you swipe from the bottom does the same thing. A quick summary of "how to go back" I have encountered:

• If it has a blurry background, then you tab the blur to go back
• If its a web page you swipe across the center to go back (or forward)
• Often the only way to go back in many apps is to tap the close or x or back option on the screen
• If you are in a picture in your gallery its a swipe down to go back or again on screen option, unless you are in an app like Tapatalk at which point its a tap anywhere on the screen but dont swipe down cos that does nothing

I have observed my mates who have pretty much exclusively been on IOS, and they do the wrong action more often that you would think, gets way worse after a few dops. This is of course in between them asking if anyone has an iPhone charger, which I'm convinced is an Apple proverb.

Lack of fingerprint sensor is ridiculous since we live in a masked work, Apple Pay is pretty much Samsung Pay so nothing there, except I could keep my mask on and not have to enter my password.

Design
I have rather big hands (humble brag), but the Max is unwieldy to use, Ive adored using the biggest phones ever since they started going mainstream. rounding off edges of the screen does a really good job at masking size.
The shape (squared off) is silly and digs into your hand uncomfortably on the Max,
It constantly feels like the phone might slip out of your hand,
There is virtually no benefit to going bigger outside of bigger battery and bigger screen (by this I mean in the OS)


To be frank for an OS doesn't make much sense, and I'd love to see if HarmonyOS is any better considering it was basically built overnight out of desperation, I wonder if they've done better. (For the iPhone users, HarmonyOS is what Huawei was forced to build quickly when they had to be shunned by Google services).

The Ecosystem
Costs way too much to get full use out of this feature. Maybe I'm too poor to understand, but once you've added the costs, and looked at what you could've done in the market, or a renovation, perhaps a first class 5 star trip to Greece for 2 weeks Ai, the Ecosystem can suck my left toe.

Its definitely designed around FOMO, yes people cant airdrop to me, but who cares. The biggest dealbreaker could be the ability to integrate to the more opensource type of smartdevices ill be putting in soon.

Summary
Its lovely, and has some really out of this world features. Its an expensive phone that makes sure everyone around you knows what it is. People do notice, and think you're probably rich.

But might switch back depending on what comes out with the S22 Ultra.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

I've used an iPhone temporarily for a couple of months twice before.
I think there's one app which isn't available on iOS, and has no decent alternative.

Some other apps will be ad supported or free on Android, but paid on iOS. (For example the Think game)

Where the apps exist for both, the iOS version is often the better version though.

 

[Dolby]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply - and I feel you're a very similar to me, which worries me slightly

Huawei GT

On the smartwatch, it feels a lot clunkier than before, just strange things such as cutting off bluetooth connection randomly or when you haven't used the app in a while. So no notifications at all, all fixed by opening the App, but still. I suspect that this has to do with RAM management. There are times when while connected notifications don't come in at all, and where the same ones keep popping up repeatedly.

That worries me a bit ...

I am not spending money on an Apple Watch since the Huawei cost me R1500 from Huawei and I'm not spending Apple watch money on smartwatch whose battery lasts only 18 hours (2 weeks on the Huawei) and needs to be charged every night, meaning obviously as with all lithium batteries will mean less overall life than other offerings.

Battery on the Apple watch is also a reason I'd never consider it - my watch is already 'old' and I'm getting this morning it needed a charge on day 10.

Find my phone only really works with sound on, and even then is super quiet and nowhere near as effective as the "I'm over here" Scream from my old phone.

I love the 'I'm over here!' scream ... use it very often ...

Well except Truecaller shows the caller on my watch but not on my phone, unless I have a contact in my address book, which is when it works well, making it utterly redundant.

Ouch ...

I already had a wireless charger, but its so slow it begs the question why they have even bothered, especially with the glass back trade off.

Agreed - it's half the speed of my 2 year old Huawei ... but something I can live with

The Battery life is astonishingly good, basically went through a weekend with no charger, and while it was low on my return, seeing 60% odd at the end of day one was amazing. It should be noted that there was a substantial jump in battery performance from previous iterations of the phone.

I've noted the battery jump and as a heavy user, definitely welcome

There are some objectively good elements within the OS, the screenshot experience is one of them, not having to keep it saved once you have used it (sent it on).

Not a huge issue for me

Face ID is spectacular and the best in the business

That's good to hear as both my Huaweis have this and I love it - super quick . Quick question though - does it still require a swipe to unlock after the Face ID ? Or can you go straight in ?

The RAM management and instant freezing of an app once its not on your screen (I realise there are some work-arounds, but I'd have quite a lot open possibly enough to overwhelm the minimal ram they insist on putting in flagship).

Erk ..

So I use Chromecast on two TVs, and I now cant cast from a webpage and often screen mirroring just refuses to work and only gives me the option for airplay. There was an app for this, but I needed to keep the screen on and playing the content for the content to stream. So far worse than normal, renders the phone unusable while using it. So when I cast, I typically leave the app since my TV is processing data from my phone, not on IOS, it will hang, because you left the app and its now "frozen", happens on both YouTube and Netflix.

Not good ...

The widgets are cool, but nowhere compared to Android, especially if you have used NovaLauncher.

Forgot about widgets - I'll need to go through to YouTube to see what I can / can't do . I don't have anything hectic - calendar / exchange rates and share price. I'm sure it can do that

You cant place an app where you want to, its always up and to the left, which when you are holding the phone in your right hand is the worst possible place. There is however a nice feature that brings the screen down so you can reach.

Hmmm

Lack of fingerprint sensor is ridiculous since we live in a masked work, Apple Pay is pretty much Samsung Pay so nothing there, except I could keep my mask on and not have to enter my password.

I didn't know the iPhone 13 Pro didn't have ? So the only option is FAce ID or password ?

Design
I have rather big hands (humble brag), but the Max is unwieldy to use, Ive adored using the biggest phones ever since they started going mainstream. rounding off edges of the screen does a really good job at masking size.

I don't think I'd go Max - used my stepfathers and it isn't great to hold. They just have the whole ratio wrong (IMO) and my large screen phones felt quite small to hold.

But might switch back depending on what comes out with the S22 Ultra.

I may do the same - not far for the launch .

Thanks again for the objective reply !

 

[AfricanTech]

@Dolby

I use a Huawei GT/Iphone 13 Pro Max (3 months)

[snip]


I am not spending money on an Apple Watch since the Huawei cost me R1500 from Huawei and I'm not spending Apple watch money on smartwatch whose battery lasts only 18 hours (2 weeks on the Huawei) and needs to be charged every night, meaning obviously as with all lithium batteries will mean less overall life than other offerings.

Find my phone only really works with sound on, and even then is super quiet and nowhere near as effective as the "I'm over here" Scream from my old phone.

Apple Watch - I'm still rocking a Series 3 as my daily watch - so not sure what you mean by the battery not lasting - I'm wishing this thing would die so I can justify upgrading

Find my phone 'screams' at me - never had a problem hearing it

 

[AfricanTech]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply - and I feel you're a very similar to me, which worries me slightly



That worries me a bit ...


Battery on the Apple watch is also a reason I'd never consider it - my watch is already 'old' and I'm getting this morning it needed a charge on day 10.

Yeah, if you're used to 10 days then charging daily will take getting used to - I don't find it an issue - basically put it on charge when I go to bed but when travelling it's a pain to have to carry the charger with me

I love the 'I'm over here!' scream ... use it very often ...

No issue with this - see if you can get them to demo it at the Apple Store - it's pretty loud (increases in volume you longer you leave it)

Ouch ...


Agreed - it's half the speed of my 2 year old Huawei ... but something I can live with

I've noted the battery jump and as a heavy user, definitely welcome


Not a huge issue for me


That's good to hear as both my Huaweis have this and I love it - super quick . Quick question though - does it still require a swipe to unlock after the Face ID ? Or can you go straight in ?

It unlocks when you look at the phone - then you swipe to get to your apps

Erk ..

Not good ...

Screencasting is of course perfect with Apple TV - that said, none of us here at home have any problems screencasting to LG TV so that may be an artefact of the TV you're casting to

Forgot about widgets - I'll need to go through to YouTube to see what I can / can't do . I don't have anything hectic - calendar / exchange rates and share price. I'm sure it can do that


Hmmm


I didn't know the iPhone 13 Pro didn't have ? So the only option is FAce ID or password ?

This!!!!! So much this - it's why my wife is sticking to her iPhone 7+ even though it's quite old by now - she just can't let go of the fingerprint reader. Tbh, I only miss it very occasionally since I have an Apple Watch and that interacts with the phone to allow unlocking even with a mask on.

I don't think I'd go Max - used my stepfathers and it isn't great to hold. They just have the whole ratio wrong (IMO) and my large screen phones felt quite small to hold.

I may do the same - not far for the launch .

Thanks again for the objective reply !

Personally, I'd be very hesitant to run an iPhone in a hybrid ecosystem (watch, earbuds) - when those three items are all Apple they interoperate like a dream - the whole is genuinely greater than the sum of the parts

 

[AfricanTech]

I remember Fanie Dry trying to switch to an iPhone

He just couldn't - missed the Android world too much - sold it after a week

I told him that he has to go cold turkey for a month but uh uh, he couldn't take the inability to customise it to exactly how HE wanted

 

[Dolby]

So maybe rather than rushing into things, I'll check the S22 out and give the whole thing a bit more thought .

I'm not planning to get into the whole ecosystem (Maybe a ATV), but right now it'd only be the iPhone. I think my Samsung TV does do AirPLay - though, I've never really mirrored or cast to screen. I've got Huawei phone / watch / router & mesh (sometimes) / earbuds etc

 

[AfricanTech]

So maybe rather than rushing into things, I'll check the S22 out and give the whole thing a bit more thought .

I'm not planning to get into the whole ecosystem (Maybe a ATV), but right now it'd only be the iPhone. I think my Samsung TV does do AirPLay - though, I've never really mirrored or cast to screen. I've got Huawei phone / watch / router & mesh (sometimes) / earbuds etc

Probably the right decision imo - integrating all those non-Apple devices with your phone is going to leave you feeling frustrated and you'll end up hating the iPhone for reasons that have nothing to do with the phone.

My own journey from Android to Apple was slow one - first I got the phone, then the other bits and pieces followed (fortunately, at the time I switched, Android watches, buds, media devices, etc were so kuk anyway that I hardly owned any so it wasn't a great loss).

I'll give you an example of how seamless all the Apple stuff is - Airpods in ear, listening to music on phone, pick up iPad, start YouTube video, sound automatically switches to Airpods; phone rings, answer call on watch 'cos phone is on desk 'over there', sound switches back to Airpods Youtube video pauses; walk into bedroom, switch on ATV which pops up a notification that Airpods are near - click button on ATV remote and they connect and I'm now listening to ATV on Airpods - it just 'works'

But ja, it's not going to be doing that with your current stuff you already own so you're going to have a suboptimal experience all round.

 

[Mosgi]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply - and I feel you're a very similar to me, which worries me slightly



That worries me a bit ...


Battery on the Apple watch is also a reason I'd never consider it - my watch is already 'old' and I'm getting this morning it needed a charge on day 10.


I love the 'I'm over here!' scream ... use it very often ...


Ouch ...


Agreed - it's half the speed of my 2 year old Huawei ... but something I can live with

I've noted the battery jump and as a heavy user, definitely welcome


Not a huge issue for me


That's good to hear as both my Huaweis have this and I love it - super quick . Quick question though - does it still require a swipe to unlock after the Face ID ? Or can you go straight in ?

Erk ..

Not good ...


Forgot about widgets - I'll need to go through to YouTube to see what I can / can't do . I don't have anything hectic - calendar / exchange rates and share price. I'm sure it can do that


Hmmm


I didn't know the iPhone 13 Pro didn't have ? So the only option is FAce ID or password ?

I don't think I'd go Max - used my stepfathers and it isn't great to hold. They just have the whole ratio wrong (IMO) and my large screen phones felt quite small to hold.


I may do the same - not far for the launch .

Thanks again for the objective reply !

Shot,

Not sure about Face ID thing looks like you have to wake it (lift phone, tap screen), but don’t need to pull up once unlocked.

EDIT: Im wrong, needs a swipe up to open.