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So my daughter needs a new PC in her room so thought I would take the chance to upgrade my PC and give her my old one (i5 4570, 8 GB ram which will be more than enough for her basic needs).

So after looking around, this is what I have come up with:

CPU: i7 6700

Mobo: ASUS B150 Pro Gaming

Ram: G.Skill 16GB (2x8GB)

PSU: Corsair CX550M or Corsair CX 650M - not sure which to go for?

Case: Phanteks P400S

Will continue to use my Radeon R9 380 GPU - was thinking of upgrading this now but not sure if I need to yet?

Total comes to roughly R9000. I know I still need a cooler - either air or water?

I will be using my current SSD and HDD's so don't need any of that.

What do you think? Anything you would suggest I change or don't need?
 
You don't need such an expensive MB, the case maybe something a bit cheaper.
Get all the components from one supplier, you save on shipping unless the price difference justifies it.
A gtx 1080 will happily run on a 550W psu, unless you wan't more for future.
CPU does not really get hot any aircooler is basically better than the stock one, you're not OCing so no need for water, the 120/140mm fans run quieter than the 92mm fans.
 
ponder said:
You don't need such an expensive MB, the case maybe something a bit cheaper.
Get all the components from one supplier, you save on shipping unless the price difference justifies it.
A gtx 1080 will happily run on a 550W psu, unless you wan't more for future.
CPU does not really get hot any aircooler is basically better than the stock one, you're not OCing so no need for water, the 120/140mm fans run quieter than the 92mm fans.
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I was lookin at prices on the 1151 motherboards and they all seem to be around R1500 - R1700 so for an extra R300 I would rather get the one I linked to for future upgrades (4 dimm slots, 6x sata connectors, PCIe slots etc). The case I am pretty set on to be honest, it needs to look in my office :)

So that 550w psu should be fine then?

There is roughly a R400 saving getting the components from the 2 different suppliers but will double check again.

edit: so it seems to only be roughly R200 saving which will work out the same as shipping so makes sense to get from one supplier.
 
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Why on earth would you pay so much money for a B150 board? You can get a Z270 for around that price.

First problem is that the board is from the Skylake generation, not the KabyLake generation. I know you are using a Skylake chip, but at least get a Kabylake motherboard to make upgrading in future easier. Better memory compatibility too, and Intel Optane if you ever want to use it (although you would need a Kaby Lake CPU for that)

This board supports your CPU and is a million times more advanced. It supports overclocking, it will have more SATA ports, greater PCI express bandwidth, etc etc. All round a better board and in my opinion, a better manufacturer too. More timeous BIOS updates.

EDIT:

Here is the same board at Rebeltech.
 
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Ancalagon said:
Why on earth would you pay so much money for a B150 board? You can get a Z270 for around that price.

First problem is that the board is from the Skylake generation, not the KabyLake generation. I know you are using a Skylake chip, but at least get a Kabylake motherboard to make upgrading in future easier. Better memory compatibility too, and Intel Optane if you ever want to use it (although you would need a Kaby Lake CPU for that)

This board supports your CPU and is a million times more advanced. It supports overclocking, it will have more SATA ports, greater PCI express bandwidth, etc etc. All round a better board and in my opinion, a better manufacturer too. More timeous BIOS updates.

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Here is the same board at Rebeltech.
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Thanks for the info - this is exactly why I ask here before doing any purchases. So anything else on the build you would change?

I can put the pc together easily but all the new hardware names tend to get me now and then...
 
weelzSA said:
I was considering trying Ryzen but the cost goes up quite a bit once you start looking at the CPU's that can compare or compete with i7.
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Depends what you're using the PC for. If it's any kind of content creation, whether it's video editing or even streaming on Twitch, the Ryzen is better.

The actual problem is that PotterH sources his CPUs from somewhere else. That i7 pricing is the standard i7 pricing.

This is normal pricing for the 6700:
http://www.wootware.co.za/intel-i7-...-14nm-skylake-socket-lga1151-desktop-cpu.html

Double PotterH. Makes you wonder where he gets his CPUs from.
 
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Chevron said:
Depends what you're using the PC for. If it's any kind of content creation, whether it's video editing or even streaming on Twitch, the Ryzen is better.

The actual problem is that PotterH sources his CPUs from somewhere else. That i7 pricing is the standard i7 pricing.

This is normal pricing for the 6700:
http://www.wootware.co.za/intel-i7-...-14nm-skylake-socket-lga1151-desktop-cpu.html

Double PotterH. Makes you wonder where he gets his CPUs from.
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Yeah the pricing is very good it seems. I bought my i5 from him and have never had a problem.

I will use the PC for day to day office work, video / picture editing, light gaming and watching YouTube etc.

I really was considering ryzen but the pricing is still too high at the moment. The i7 seems an amazing deal for what you get so it is a tough one.
 
Considering how good of a deal that i7 is, I'd go for it.

For memory, you can consider spending R200 more and upgrading to 3200 Mhz memory. Note that you will probably have to manually set the memory speed for your build to this speed, so its up to you if you want to tinker a little. Will give you a little more memory bandwidth.

For PSU, you could consider a 650W if you want to do heavy overclocking or if you want to run multiple GPUs. For what you have now, a quality 550W PSU is plenty. Corsair is a good brand.

For GPU, your 380 is a decent card, it just depends on whether it is fast enough for you at the moment. A more powerful AMD GPU will allow you to do cryptocurrency mining, which can make your build eventually pay for itself. Your current GPU can do some cryptocurrency mining, but it is limited in both its memory and its power. Some cryptocurrency algorithms require lots of video memory.

The problem is that you would have to spend R3000 to really get a decent upgrade on your card. You would have to get a 470, which I think would be 30% faster or so. So, maybe not quite worth it yet.
 
Ancalagon said:
Why on earth would you pay so much money for a B150 board? You can get a Z270 for around that price.

First problem is that the board is from the Skylake generation, not the KabyLake generation. I know you are using a Skylake chip, but at least get a Kabylake motherboard to make upgrading in future easier. Better memory compatibility too, and Intel Optane if you ever want to use it (although you would need a Kaby Lake CPU for that)

This board supports your CPU and is a million times more advanced. It supports overclocking, it will have more SATA ports, greater PCI express bandwidth, etc etc. All round a better board and in my opinion, a better manufacturer too. More timeous BIOS updates.

EDIT:

Here is the same board at Rebeltech.
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nice one. that is a no brainer compared to that specific B150
 
So is that the best Z270 board to go for then in the roughly R2k price range? It's a lot to spend on mother boards but the cheaper ones normally only have 2x dimm slots and max 4 sata connectors which is a concern for upgradability.

A board that supports rgb connectors will also be a plus incase I add those too. Really just looking for the best board in that price range.
 
weelzSA said:
Which bundle?
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The one you PM'd the guy for, I think you should still buy the motherboard and RAM and just get the i7 6700 from PotterH.

If you take the MB, RAM and just include the PSU and case you wanted above total is R8325, excluding the shipping and HSF.
 
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weelzSA said:
Oh yes.

Yeah I am very keen on that motherboard. Is it better than this one:

http://www.wootware.co.za/msi-z270-...l-z270-kaby-lake-atx-desktop-motherboard.html

The ram is 4x 4gb sticks. Is 2x 8gb sticks not better? Especially for future upgrades? Even tho 16gb should do well for a long time still.
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4 x 4GB isn't ideal if you can rather go 2 x 8GB.

The motherboards look to be basically the same ASUS is just generally more expensive, I've always been a fan of the ASUS motherboards and if you can get that one for ~R200 cheaper than the MSI why not, it's only two months old.
 
Soul Assassin said:
4 x 4GB isn't ideal if you can rather go 2 x 8GB.

The motherboards look to be basically the same ASUS is just generally more expensive, I've always been a fan of the ASUS motherboards and if you can get that one for ~R200 cheaper than the MSI why not, it's only two months old.
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Yeah I'm gonna take that motherboard.

I can get this ram for same price (but 2x 8gb):

http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f...666mhz-ddr4-cl15-1-2v-red-desktop-memory.html

Will it work with that board. Don't mind the 4x 4gb isn't a deal breaker as I don't know when I will upgrade ram again (been using 8gb for last year and been fine) unless the above ram is better to go for.
 
weelzSA said:
Yeah I'm gonna take that motherboard.

I can get this ram for same price (but 2x 8gb):

http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f...666mhz-ddr4-cl15-1-2v-red-desktop-memory.html

Will it work with that board. Don't mind the 4x 4gb isn't a deal breaker as I don't know when I will upgrade ram again (been using 8gb for last year and been fine) unless the above ram is better to go for.
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If you don't mind the 4 x GB you might as well get everything from him, they are a bit faster and they go great with the board and you can OC them up to 3000MHz.
 
Soul Assassin said:
If you don't mind the 4 x GB you might as well get everything from him, they are a bit faster and they go great with the board and you can OC them up to 3000MHz.
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Yeah I don't mind at all as I doubt I will be upgrading the ram anytime soon. Will see if seller still has ram and will see if we can make a deal for both items.
 
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