Apple falling behind ...

"There's an app for that ..."

How many frikken apps must I buy to get to one that really works?

Android ... all there out of the box.

Samsung ads hit the nail on the head: "Sorry, yours can't do that."

And Bwana the number of people wanting more freedom and file access is growing. If Apple, like you, calls it "negligible" they will end up like BlackBerry who also didn't want to see the approaching storm. BlackBerry is where they are because of this exact thing: "We will tell the customer what he/she wants/needs ... eff them".
 
Okay, tell me how you get your files in Goodreader to PhotoStudioHD and back ...
With most of the photo editing apps I use I just do the edits and then have them save it to goodreader, unfortunately the developers of PhotoStudioHD haven't given that as an option so I use the photo library to bring it back in.

EDIT - I've just emailed the makers of PhotoStudio to see if they will add an export to goodreader option and also the makers of Goodreader to ask if they will add an import from clipboard option.
 
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They need to make a Frankenphone - Apple hardware with Google software. I would be in heaven.
 
With most of the photo editing apps I use I just do the edits and then have them save it to goodreader, unfortunately the developers of PhotoStudioHD haven't given that as an option so I use the photo library to bring it back in.

So the PhotoStudio developers must specifically enable sharing with Goodreader? If not then one must go through the central photo depository which kills the original file name and gives it an IMG_xxxx name instead.

I can create folders/directories in Goodreader but in iTunes I cannot drag and drop files into those folders. It must first go to Goodreader overall folder and then the files must be manually moved on the device.

Despite what some say I don't hate Apple products, but hell man, surely it won't destroy Apple to make things simpler and cut iTunes out of the process and allow users to get things to move around a device easier (without making it the developer's problem).
 
They need to make a Frankenphone - Apple hardware with Google software. I would be in heaven.

I did just that with my old iPhone 3G back in 2010. Was meh.

To be honest if you want the best of both worlds you should try out MIUI on a Xiaomi phone. Sourcing one in SA might be a head ache as the patent courts would kill any official distribution in no time at all. Its an Android phone with loads of iOS features made by Foxconn.

While on the subject here is an announced for the new one coming shortly.
 
So the PhotoStudio developers must specifically enable sharing with Goodreader? If not then one must go through the central photo depository which kills the original file name and gives it an IMG_xxxx name instead.

I can create folders/directories in Goodreader but in iTunes I cannot drag and drop files into those folders. It must first go to Goodreader overall folder and then the files must be manually moved on the device.

Despite what some say I don't hate Apple products, but hell man, surely it won't destroy Apple to make things simpler and cut iTunes out of the process and allow users to get things to move around a device easier (without making it the developer's problem).

I have said ages ago there is a very simple way to overcome this. Its so simple that it kills me on why Apple didn't do it.

Create a local iCloud storage sync or cache. From the apps perspective it would look like normal iCloud but from the device perspective its just a local cache of iCloud. Then in the general settings you should just have a switch to "sync" via WiFI or 3G or not at all. You might also just have the ability so change it's size.

Above setup would be great for people roaming as well as those on metered data and would give all the people that need local file access a perfect working solution.
 
So the PhotoStudio developers must specifically enable sharing with Goodreader? If not then one must go through the central photo depository which kills the original file name and gives it an IMG_xxxx name instead.
In my tests it gave it a file name of Picture X.jpg - easy enough to rename back in Goodreader but again I don't really use PhotoStudio that much for editing. It's fun, it's easy but it's also a bit simplistic for my needs.

I can create folders/directories in Goodreader but in iTunes I cannot drag and drop files into those folders. It must first go to Goodreader overall folder and then the files must be manually moved on the device.
I don't use iTunes for this to import files into goodreader so I can't help you with that.

Despite what some say I don't hate Apple products, but hell man, surely it won't destroy Apple to make things simpler and cut iTunes out of the process and allow users to get things to move around a device easier (without making it the developer's problem).
I actually quite like iTunes but I don't really use it that much except for backing up my devices.
 
When I got myself a new 64GB iPad Mini last week I offered my (in perfect condition) 16GB one to my oldest daughter (16) and she didn't want it. Why? iTunes. She preferred holding on to the old Samsung Galaxy P7500 because she has full access to a file system. The fact that kids can't share stuff on Apple as easily as they can do on Android is very well understood - and hated - by the next generation of consumers. Apple can ignore them. The likes of Samsung don't. Guess who's already winning hearts and minds.

Apple must learn from the mistakes RIM made ... or get nailed. The world is a fast changing place. The older generations are happy to be "protected" by the "state" ... ie decisions made by a few for the good of the population. The youngsters - up and coming consumers - are not like that at all. Time will tell.
 
I have said ages ago there is a very simple way to overcome this. Its so simple that it kills me on why Apple didn't do it.

Create a local iCloud storage sync or cache. From the apps perspective it would look like normal iCloud but from the device perspective its just a local cache of iCloud. Then in the general settings you should just have a switch to "sync" via WiFI or 3G or not at all. You might also just have the ability so change it's size.

Above setup would be great for people roaming as well as those on metered data and would give all the people that need local file access a perfect working solution.

I like this idea! Makes sense. Simple.
 
When I got myself a new 64GB iPad Mini last week I offered my (in perfect condition) 16GB one to my oldest daughter (16) and she didn't want it. Why? iTunes. She preferred holding on to the old Samsung Galaxy P7500 because she has full access to a file system. The fact that kids can't share stuff on Apple as easily as they can do on Android is very well understood - and hated - by the next generation of consumers. Apple can ignore them. The likes of Samsung don't. Guess who's already winning hearts and minds.

Apple must learn from the mistakes RIM made ... or get nailed. The world is a fast changing place. The older generations are happy to be "protected" by the "state" ... ie decisions made by a few for the good of the population. The youngsters - up and coming consumers - are not like that at all. Time will tell.
I gave my Nexus 7 to my eldest and from her reaction you'd have though we'd taken up burning her with cigarettes.
 
I gave my Nexus 7 to my eldest and from her reaction you'd have though we'd taken up burning her with cigarettes.

LOL! Wow ...

Note to parents: If it ain't got 3G/HSPA and can only do wi-fi most kids aren't interested. The wif-fi only stuff ends up in a drawer under lots of stuff.

The Nexus 7 with 3G/HSPA is a fantastic device. At R4000 it is a gem of a buy.
 
.... but again I don't really use PhotoStudio that much for editing. It's fun, it's easy but it's also a bit simplistic for my needs.

Ever tried Handy Photo?

The thing is I use a number of these apps on one graphic to get to the end result I want. Not one app does it all for me. PhotoStudioHD is one step of several.
 
When I got myself a new 64GB iPad Mini last week I offered my (in perfect condition) 16GB one to my oldest daughter (16) and she didn't want it. Why? iTunes. She preferred holding on to the old Samsung Galaxy P7500 because she has full access to a file system. The fact that kids can't share stuff on Apple as easily as they can do on Android is very well understood - and hated - by the next generation of consumers. Apple can ignore them. The likes of Samsung don't. Guess who's already winning hearts and minds.

Apple must learn from the mistakes RIM made ... or get nailed. The world is a fast changing place. The older generations are happy to be "protected" by the "state" ... ie decisions made by a few for the good of the population. The youngsters - up and coming consumers - are not like that at all. Time will tell.

LOL! Wow ...

Note to parents: If it ain't got 3G/HSPA and can only do wi-fi most kids aren't interested. The wif-fi only stuff ends up in a drawer under lots of stuff.

The Nexus 7 with 3G/HSPA is a fantastic device. At R4000 it is a gem of a buy.

You both wrong, Kids will reflect what their parents feel over the device. Well thats for the younger ones at least 1-14 would mirror it exactly and 15-18 some would rebel just because they wanna, so they would feel exactly the opposite saying, the crap the dad likes is because he is old.

In both cases you mentioned said nothing about the devices, just as with grown up's there are some that would like device X and other would just hate it. At the end it boils down to 2 things. what do you like:
Function over design: Android
Design over function: iOS

Its really that simple.

Edit: Oh forgot fashion, but that also boils down to above for example my one friend has twins aged 17. The social one wants the iPad/iPhone cause its "hip" and good to be seen with one. The nerdy one wants an Note tab 2/S3 cause of what she can do with em.
 
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I have said ages ago there is a very simple way to overcome this. Its so simple that it kills me on why Apple didn't do it.

Create a local iCloud storage sync or cache. From the apps perspective it would look like normal iCloud but from the device perspective its just a local cache of iCloud. Then in the general settings you should just have a switch to "sync" via WiFI or 3G or not at all. You might also just have the ability so change it's size.

Above setup would be great for people roaming as well as those on metered data and would give all the people that need local file access a perfect working solution.

That sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I'm not sure though why bevonk doesn't have wi-fi and normal ADSL at home and can do all this stuff over Dropbox when he gets back to the house? It seems like a pretty extreme use case to be limited to 3G data all the time.

Anyway, iCloud is broken everyone recognises that. It's a constant headache for developers. It works very well for user data transfer between devices for backup and so on but for app data it needs a lot of work. It's healthy to recognise the areas that Apple is falling behind in and seriously needs to work on. Android has no better alternative but it uses an open file system so one can work it out by other ways.

When I got myself a new 64GB iPad Mini last week I offered my (in perfect condition) 16GB one to my oldest daughter (16) and she didn't want it. Why? iTunes. She preferred holding on to the old Samsung Galaxy P7500 because she has full access to a file system. The fact that kids can't share stuff on Apple as easily as they can do on Android is very well understood - and hated - by the next generation of consumers. Apple can ignore them. The likes of Samsung don't. Guess who's already winning hearts and minds.
You don't possibly think that you're having more of an influence on your kids' choices than you'd care to acknowledge? I don't know many teenage girls who care a flip about open filesystems. For the most part they just want what their friends want.
 
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Ever tried Handy Photo?

The thing is I use a number of these apps on one graphic to get to the end result I want. Not one app does it all for me. PhotoStudioHD is one step of several.
Can't say that I've heard of it before now but I'll take a look at it. Right now my two go to photo apps on the iPad are FilterStorm Pro and Photogene. On the iPhone I generally do quick fixes so iPhoto and now PhotoStudio get a fair bit of use.
 
They did, Its called the HTC One.

:p

The software is 50% of the reason I still stay away from Android. For all its manifest flaws, iOS is still ahead of Android from a usability and solidity perspective, and in the selection of apps. Apps tend to have a qualitative edge as well; and the key Google apps (GTalk aside :/) are all represented on iOS and some are even better. So all Android has to sway me is this openness spiel. If there is a groundbreaking app especially in gaming, you're pretty much guaranteed that it will hit iOS first, Android second - if at all.
 
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Yet another techie heavily opinionated thread, unrepresentative of the average end user.

Consider debates like:
1. Users wanting to "trick out" their devices both within the iOS and Android are the few. For example:
a. The Evasion jailbreak secured less than 5% of the iOS community at it's peak.
b. How many Android users typically load custom ROMs?
3. On big phones; Google own stats reveal, large / XL Android phones represent only 10% of the Android community. So just how important is it to have a big phone?
4....

I could as many continue "ad nauseam"...; yet the most important point to stress is a simple one: technical forums (such as this one) are dominated by techies, and these same are the ones looking for functionality / features that is not of interest to the average consumer; hence the opinions on this forum and one's like it, will always be very skewed & unrepresentative of the overall community, both in the Android and iOS camps.

Granted there are some who try to argue along these lines, only to be vigorously shot down by techies from either camp.

Pointless...!
 
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