Apple iPhone 4S review

[Elimentals]

No this isn't an OS war, but it illustrates nicely the philosophical difference between Android and iOS. That app you referenced only came out three or four months ago (can see their first blog post in http://mysynccenter.net/page/2/) and only properly supported non-English characters two months ago (http://mysynccenter.net/2011/11/08/upcoming-pc-app/). You know how long I've had non-English characters working with iTunes? 6 years ago when I got my first iPod Nano.

This is exactly my point that when you have this huge number of apps to ostensibly achieve a single task (syncing music), many with an incredibly tiny user base like this My Sync Center app, then you end up with each one having lots and lots of weird, different and unfixed bugs. The big advantage of millions upon millions of people all using iTunes to sync to their single model of iPhone that comes out once a year, is that there are a lot fewer rough edges and nasty surprises than you'll likely find with the plethora of different devices/software/combinations that you can get with Android. That's the Apple advantage, and yes it's a lot more boring and homogenous, but this is software that I want to Just Work.

That is why I said currently. I use to use another app that worked via USB but for some reason Apple don't like playing nice with others and keep on breaking support with every iTunes update.

Anyway lets just settle with there is a way, and it goes both ways as well, If you don't like iTunes there is applications for that 2.

So the whole iTunes argument actually became null and void.

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[km2]

That is why I said currently. I use to use another app that worked via USB but for some reason Apple don't like playing nice with others and keep on breaking support with every iTunes update.

Anyway lets just settle with there is a way, and it goes both ways as well, If you don't like iTunes there is applications for that 2.

So the whole iTunes argument actually became null and void.

Nah, it doesn't. You keep throwing out different applications that all make middling efforts to sync music. Messing around with three different applications in the past six months just to keep your music on your portable devices? Stuff that.

With Apple there is a single way that is fantastically well supported, recommended and pushed by Apple, and successfully used by millions of people. If you have a problem with that way, cannot get used to that way, or it just doesn't fit with what you want to do with your music, DO NOT BUY AN APPLE PRODUCT.

If, however, you don't have strong feelings about how you get music on your phone then the Apple way has some of the fewest rough edges. It might just be a single path available to you as an Apple user, but it's one well manicured path.

 

[Elimentals]

With Apple there is a single way that is fantastically well supported, recommended and pushed by Apple, and successfully used by millions of people. If you have a problem with that way, cannot get used to that way, or it just doesn't fit with what you want to do with your music, DO NOT BUY AN APPLE PRODUCT.

Erm if you look again the application I linked the second time its for Apple users that dont want to use iTunes.....

Oh wait nevermind, you one of the people that believe if you not doing something Apple's way, you are doing it wrong. I'll leave you be.

 

[AfricanTech]

Don't understand why people are so defensive about their platform of choice :wtf:

Based on personal experience, all platforms have limitations - I use Android and IOS (and Windows, OSX, Ubuntu Linux (Mint Variation)) - choose the one you're most comfortable with - no need to knock the others

To chip in on the above debate, (stressing personal opinion), I find iTunes far easier to use for music than any of the other solutions out there (except for it's irritating habit of allowing you to drop duplicate songs on an iPhone 3G and then refusing to sync with it afterwards until you sort it out by deleting the duplicates on the phone). The iPod app on the iPhone just works, and works well - I haven't managed to find an Android app yet that is as slick and simple to use and navigate (if someone can point me to one that works on the Desire Z I would be most appreciative).

Overall the original review was, I thought, nicely balanced. That said, the iPhone 4S was a stunning upgrade to my SO's Nokia E72. Took less than a day to be completely comfortable with all the main functions - it just worked.

EDIT: removed Sony PS3 XMB before the OS police lambast me

 

[Elimentals]

I haven't managed to find an Android app yet that is as slick and simple to use and navigate (if someone can point me to one that works on the Desire Z I would be most appreciative).

Have you tried the one that comes native in the MIUI rom?

No you dont need to flash your phone to get it, for more information and the Apk link see http://www.redmondpie.com/miui-music-player-apk-download/

 

[km2]

Erm if you look again the application I linked the second time its for Apple users that dont want to use iTunes.....

Oh wait nevermind, you one of the people that believe if you not doing something Apple's way, you are doing it wrong. I'll leave you be.

Haha, look at what I wrote. I explicitly said "DO NOT BUY AN APPLE PRODUCT" if it doesn't fit with what you're trying to do. I'm not trying to sell iTunes as the be-all and end-all of music transfer, hell, my first post had a list of benefits of doing things the USB Mass Storage way.

What I am saying, is that if you can accept the iTunes model of syncing your music, it's fantastically polished, and far more so than what Android achieves simply because it has such a level of focus on the "one true way". You're providing me with this list of second-rate applications that are Androids attempt to do the iTunes/iPhone model, but they don't have that same level of finish (where they've only discovered songs with titles written in non-Western European languages two months ago!).

You're getting blinded trying to show that anything iOS can do, Android can do better. I'm not trying to find jailbreak applications to prove that you can somehow pull off emulated USB Mass Storage on the iPhone to prove it's the "perfect" phone. There isn't a perfect OS and there's always going to be trade offs. Androids trade-off is that from all the options it gives, you lose the polish that comes from having a well tested one-true-way. I happen to find that particular one-true-way good enough (not necessarily perfect, but better than all the different so-so ways Android may provide), and in that case the iPhone wins for me.

 

[mercurial]

I've never used an iPhone before until the missus got one. I must say, being an Android fan, I really do like the iPhone. The UI is smooth, solid and refined. Everything works well, quickly and you never have to worry about closing tasks to get more memory. The only thing that is not good with the iPhone 4s is the battery life (iOS 5.0.1). It really sucks. We only get a few hours out of it and then the battery is dead. Overall, the phone is really slick but because I have a Galaxy SII, the screen is too good, so looking at any other phone's screen is just pointless. It is a bit of a schlep to set up a fake US iTunes account, but it was a simple process and now I buy vouchers to download stuff from iTunes. Other than that, I like the iPhone 4s and I would definitely get me one as a backup phone.

 

[sand_man]

I've never used an iPhone before until the missus got one. I must say, being an Android fan, I really do like the iPhone. The UI is smooth, solid and refined. Everything works well, quickly and you never have to worry about closing tasks to get more memory. The only thing that is not good with the iPhone 4s is the battery life (iOS 5.0.1). It really sucks. We only get a few hours out of it and then the battery is dead. Overall, the phone is really slick but because I have a Galaxy SII, the screen is too good, so looking at any other phone's screen is just pointless. It is a bit of a schlep to set up a fake US iTunes account, but it was a simple process and now I buy vouchers to download stuff from iTunes. Other than that, I like the iPhone 4s and I would definitely get me one as a backup phone.

Bestbuy are selling vouchers at 20% LESS than face value. Today only...


http://iphoneza.co.za/forums/Thread-iTunes-Vouchers-Directly-from-BestBuy-com


http://appaddict.net/2012/01/07/today-only-apple-itunes-codes-are-20-off-at-bestbuy-com/

To complete your online purchase:

During checkout, in place of your non-US billing address, use this exact billing address:

10780 Kempwood Dr.
Houston, TX 77043

NB!!! Be sure to select the digital delivery card so the voucher code gets emailed to you - you don't want to physical card to get delivered to the above address! That is just so international users can make purchases online.

When prompted for a contact number use their example 555-555-5555

 

[mercurial]

Bestbuy are selling vouchers at 20% LESS than face value. Today only...


http://iphoneza.co.za/forums/Thread-iTunes-Vouchers-Directly-from-BestBuy-com


http://appaddict.net/2012/01/07/today-only-apple-itunes-codes-are-20-off-at-bestbuy-com/

To complete your online purchase:

During checkout, in place of your non-US billing address, use this exact billing address:

10780 Kempwood Dr.
Houston, TX 77043

NB!!! Be sure to select the digital delivery card so the voucher code gets emailed to you - you don't want to physical card to get delivered to the above address! That is just so international users can make purchases online.

When prompted for a contact number use their example 555-555-5555

That was the website I used to buy the vouchers I checked out that forum when I set up the fake US account but thanks anyway

 

[AfricanTech]

Have you tried the one that comes native in the MIUI rom?

No you dont need to flash your phone to get it, for more information and the Apk link see http://www.redmondpie.com/miui-music-player-apk-download/

Thanks for the pointer. Will check it out

 

[SoulSeeker]

I own a Galaxy S2 and just upgraded to the 4s two days ago. Why would anyone do such a thing you'd ask...

Always been n big apple hater till I actually got to play with one myself. Coming from someone who has owned 4 Android phones and 2 Android tablets - Apple isn't all that bad. Physically the 4s is smaller and actually makes it easier to work with. The screen quality is amazing and not even to mention the camera quality!

Overall it is a awesome device and deserves the shine its been given.


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[PostmanPot]

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[mercurial]

I own a Galaxy S2 and just upgraded to the 4s two days ago. Why would anyone do such a thing you'd ask...

Always been n big apple hater till I actually got to play with one myself. Coming from someone who has owned 4 Android phones and 2 Android tablets - Apple isn't all that bad. Physically the 4s is smaller and actually makes it easier to work with. The screen quality is amazing and not even to mention the camera quality!

Overall it is a awesome device and deserves the shine its been given.


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Same here, though it's my wife who has the phone. I quite like it.

 

[AfricanTech]

Same here, though it's my wife who has the phone. I quite like it.

My wife said to me that I should get my own one - she's fed up with it always being in my hands

 

[jannievanzyl]

I own a Galaxy S2 and just upgraded to the 4s two days ago. Why would anyone do such a thing you'd ask...

Always been n big apple hater till I actually got to play with one myself. Coming from someone who has owned 4 Android phones and 2 Android tablets - Apple isn't all that bad. Physically the 4s is smaller and actually makes it easier to work with. The screen quality is amazing and not even to mention the camera quality!

Overall it is a awesome device and deserves the shine its been given.


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I think the highlighted bits sum up these threads nicely. Seems most people who have a strong opinion never actually used the devices under attack for any relevant length of time.

As I often suggested in the past, there should be a self-imposed limit to ensure only people who actually used the relevant device *in full production* will be allowed to post a review (including journalists ) or an opinion.

Of course it's right out there with my other romantic notion that all online debates will be based on fact.

Back OT: having used Android 2, 3 and 4 for the required few weeks, comparing to the iPhone I can comfortably say I prefer the Galaxy Nexus' larger screen and form factor and that ICS is a serious challenger to IOS5 but is not quite there yet.

However the Apple Eco-system is still substantially better than anything available on Android. As others have stated, the inherent 'openness' of Android is its biggest hurdle in building a seamless Eco-system.