Mike Hoxbig
Honorary Master
You're doing something horribly wrong if your phone behaves that way. If you give two people two identically spec'd Windows machines, and if one of them behaves in this manner, you wouldn't blame the OS.
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cerebus
Honorary Master
The community doesn't build the same thing as a proper professional user interface, up to the standard of iOS's. I've waded through enough customisations to know that the vast majority of them are up to poop - either subpar ripoffs of other OS's (iOS, WP), or variants on Trebuchet, or tools that you need a BsC in Computer Science to configure to look as awesome as you'd like. The native iOS interface is still a standard against which Android is trying to get to imo.
And as I say; I don't have time any longer or inclination to devote to customisation. I already did that. Then I grew up and started using my devices to actually do stuff on.
cerebus
Honorary Master
Could be. It wasn't as bad as this on the previous rom, so perhaps it's just a poorly optimised rom.
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
I think I played with themes once or twice when I jailbroke my iPhone 3GS back in the day and it made the phone so slow and unstable that I never bothered again.
Now when I jail break my 4S or iPad 2 it's purely to install XBMC and do all of maybe 4 tweaks to do things like "mark all mail as read" and that kind of thing.
Small things that are nice to have, but easy to live without like I'm currently doing.
Missing my XBMC though.
Now when I jail break my 4S or iPad 2 it's purely to install XBMC and do all of maybe 4 tweaks to do things like "mark all mail as read" and that kind of thing.
Small things that are nice to have, but easy to live without like I'm currently doing.
Missing my XBMC though.
AlphaJohn
Honorary Master
I have a launcher just for you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.espier.launcher&hl=en
cerebus
Honorary Master
I have a launcher just for you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.espier.launcher&hl=en
My face just collided with my palm.
Lol, are you 90yr?
On a serious note Google is doing exactly what you're speaking about. They implement good ideas into it's open system, Android has leap-frogged itself every major release and for the better. I'm specifically talking about stock Android here.
I don't agree with your comment that 'majority of customisation apps are up to poop' and I don't think developers would appreciate that comment either, unless they worked for Apple of course.
Developers have to start somewhere, so I agree that initially first releases might not be amazing but you have to start somewhere and then build on it.I also suggest you write a book about 'How to Use Your Device to do Actual Stuff' because obviously the millions of people out there that are jailbreaking, rooting and paying\downloading launchers (for Android obviously) are clearly stupid and are not getting the most out of their devices...now everybody BACK TO STOCK COLOURS AND REMOVE THOSE WALL PAPERS! YOU'ER NOT USING IT PROPERLY!
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I have a launcher just for you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.espier.launcher&hl=en
That's how great Android is, all about choice, run the launcher for a few months, get bored and try another. What's the harm?
It's also done between 1m - 5m downloads with an average rating of 4.3, not too bad for a free launcher.
And what about these:
50m -100m downloads
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex&feature=search_result
5m -10m downloads
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adw.launcher&feature=search_result
Obviously customisation is big to some people....well, a lot of people.
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BTW, what should one compare iOS6 to? Gingerbread, as it still is on the majority of Android devices? Surely not JB, 10% is hardly representative of the Android population.
cerebus
Honorary Master
No, I'm somebody who spends hours a day using my tablet and phone and has very little time for going on xda looking for cool icons any more. Although apparently I have plenty of time to argue with Android fans about useless crap on mybb so perhaps I need to readjust my priorities.
I would but I'm too busy doing actual stuff.
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I'm not sure what's you're trying to say, are you saying the 45% running ICS and JB have no say? Where does compare come into this? I was replying to cerebus' comment...
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I find this quite funny...
What are we even talking about here?!
Apple has it's design philosophy which is working ok I guess....nice profit but flat growth and losing market share...
Google has it's design philosophy which seems to be working really well....huge growth and dominating the market share...
What are we even talking about here?!
Apple has it's design philosophy which is working ok I guess....nice profit but flat growth and losing market share...
Google has it's design philosophy which seems to be working really well....huge growth and dominating the market share...
cerebus
Honorary Master
Actually the profit is what flattened; the growth numbers are great by their own metrics. Market share is roughly stable; a bit lower than last year but actually on an upward trend. You do paint an awfully bleak picture, considering that I'd guess Google or Samsung would gladly swap places with Apple atm in the phone market.
The design of Android has been getting much better with each release; again 4.2 is an improvement over even 4.1. They're learning more every day. Huge growth though I'd reckon is due to a lot of factors; not least the fact that it's free.
AlphaJohn
Honorary Master
No not exactly.
Apple target specific people, people with money. It does its best to be marketed as an accessory instead of a device you can mold to fit around you. It doesn't compromise cause that compromise will drop the image.
Google on the other hand carpet bomb the entire eco system checking what sticks, from cheap phones (R1000 and below) to high value (R7500 and above). Do not believe me, watch the ads, you will not see a single
The problem comes when iOS users mock Android pointing fingers at the cheap "junk" complaining about how crap they are, and Android users here try to defend their S3's prized possessions. One thing I can say is that Android did a lot more to put Smart Phones into every hand than what iOS did and for me that is the real win.
cerebus
Honorary Master
It's not the Android threads that get bombed with iOS users. My 'too busy doing actual stuff' theory still holds though
Totally agree, 100%.
It's useless explaining that you can't compare the iPhone to Android or even Samsung in terms of market share. I've tried a few times but it has fallen on deaf ears.
Market share is no metric of success in this instance.
R13...
Honorary Master
The large army of android fans like to only see what makes them feel better. Market share can indicate success if you make the correct comparisons as if you start selling less phone like happened to RIM then you're getting rimmed. But those Samsung bulk numbers don't exactly mean much when compared to apple. Most of the phones Samsung 'ship' don't compare with iPhone.
I would think apple sells more iPhones per quarter in the same segment than Samsung do their high end S range and note combined. It is of course not possible to compare them because Samsung don't release sales figures.
Well, we do know that Samsung sold 40 million + S3 handsets as of January. I estimate iPhone 5 sales for the 3 months ended December to be +/- 30 million based on Cook's statement about the new model split being roughly the same as with the 4S.
AlphaJohn
Honorary Master
Now add to that that some people like myself will never go Samsung so opt for other high end phones in the same price range as the S3. And you see that the numbers game becomes a tad blurred.
I know that, but the point still stands. Raw market share data is not indicative of what is happening in the high end market. I'm fairly positive that the iPhone tops that stat in terms of manufacturers. Android as a whole though is surely ahead.