Apple Music

I know it worked back in th day yes.

However I'm not interested in hacks.

There are other devices that run Plex natively for less money and do it properly.
 
So I downloaded music in offline mode on my Macbook, when I connect iPhone up it doesn't copy the files I downloaded on the Macbook, they show up on iPhone music app (if i select a song it starts to download it) but seems i need to re-downlaod them on iPhone now?
 
Hemps said:
So I downloaded music in offline mode on my Macbook, when I connect iPhone up it doesn't copy the files I downloaded on the Macbook, they show up on iPhone music app (if i select a song it starts to download it) but seems i need to re-downlaod them on iPhone now?
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Yeah that is correct. It sorta seems dumb. I would have liked if I was able to transfer the offline music to my iPod too.
 
$m@Rt@$$ said:
Yeah that is correct. It sorta seems dumb. I would have liked if I was able to transfer the offline music to my iPod too.
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Complete waste of bandwidth having to re-download everything depending on the number of devices.
 
Hemps said:
Complete waste of bandwidth having to re-download everything depending on the number of devices.
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I understand why it is as it is though. If you could transfer files in that manner it would make passing on the DRM Apple Music files pretty easy.

I only download for offline listening on my iPhone though. On my other devices I stream so no big deal really.
 
Did some testing last night comparing Tidal with Apple Music.

I have same playlist on Tidal and Apple music so had offline files for both downloaded onto the device's.
Tidal HIFI on my iPad3 (iOS 8.4) and Apple Music on iPhone 5S. (iOS 9)
Sennheiser HD449.

Blind fold test - thought id start playing 5 songs and see if I could tell the difference.
Songs where:
U2 - Still haven't found what I'm looking for
Toto - Hold the Line live
Enya - Orinocco Flow
Vangelis - Conquest of Paradise
Peter Gabriel - SO - Sledgehammer Live

Faced the other direction and wife chose what to connect sennheisers to and for fun we tested.
Got 5 out of 5 correct and chose Tidal as sounding the best on every song.

Maybe its an issue with iOS 9 I'm not sure but Apple Music sounds very tinny and loud.

Tidal HIFI which is lossless I know sounds far better.
Even on on Plantronics BT Tidal sounds better.

Annoying as i enjoy apple.

Edit: I think its the ios9 beta that the issue.
 
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I'm now going to give Apple Music a try. Been using Simfy Africa since it was offered with Afrihost. It's the first and only music streaming service I've used. It's great to have all this music available in one app, but I have some real issues with it. I use it mostly on my desktop, 2meg line with AH. Quite often during the day it doesn't play, or has quite a delay before playing - not sure if its AH or Simfy. The software looks like it's been put together as an afterthought. I can't list my Fav Albums by artist, how hard could that be to sort out? No mouse-wheel scrolling either. I can't seem to customize anything. If I set up a playlist of about 30 tunes, it might play a few, then gets stuck
I also have some issues with the available music. For example, of the first 3 Waterboys albums, The Waterboys, A Pagan Place, and This is the Sea, only This is the Sea is available. Why? I have to go searching through poxy Greatest Hits collections to find the other tunes.
So I'll try Apple and see if it's any better.
 
I like some of the beats 1 shows, Elton John as a guest DJ was pretty sweet.
 
Really getting used to the offline mode now, have it on 3 devices and have to download items on each but worth it, my kids love the kids music section.
 
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Been using it since the a week after it became available. I was desperate for a Spotify alternative. Here are my thoughts (coming from a Windows user)

1.) Navigation is terrible and slow! Definitely have to click more times to play music, especially when searching. No way to go to an artist page from my music, have to click on 'All' first then click the artist name, seems really dumb especially if you just added music to your library from search. Same with playlists. Also the back/forward buttons get confused, resulting me in ending up on an album page for an artist and NO way to instantly go back to the artist page (have to search for it again):erm:

Edit: Actually just realised this is clickable and takes you to the artist page, who knew? -_- (no text highlight or anything)
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2.) Library is awesome
3.) They mix up artists much more than Spotify, one artist page for 3 different artists with the same name, it's really annoying:
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The artist in the red circled area is not the same as from the song:

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How the fu... :p

4.) Top Songs from artist page don't queue, have to play each manually. Unless this is a setting? (edit: come to think of it this is really annoying, since it's the primary way I discover new artists)
5.) I really struggled syncing some songs from my laptop's local drive to my phone, ended up deleting everything and having to download them from icloud on each device. Pretty annoying if you don't have fibre internet. I also don't understand having to DONWLOAD it even if you have your phone plugged into the computer?
6.) Sometimes songs refuse to play and I have to restart iTunes, anyone else?

Other than those issues (which are minor anyway) I'm really impressed, and for R60 p.m. it's a bargain for what you get.
 
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Hush9300 said:
I understand why it is as it is though. If you could transfer files in that manner it would make passing on the DRM Apple Music files pretty easy.
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This is a BS reason, with Spotify you can sync offline files from your PC to your phone when they are connected to the same network, why can't Apple figure out how to do it?
 
What do you guys think of Apple's music quality?

Im referring to guys with a decent setup amp or headphones.
 
Hemps said:
Maybe its an issue with iOS 9 I'm not sure but Apple Music sounds very tinny and loud.

Tidal HIFI which is lossless I know sounds far better.
Even on on Plantronics BT Tidal sounds better.
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Which sort of begs the question if it's the actual file quality that differs or if it's the App's equalization or processing that makes it sound different.
 
Hemps said:
What do you guys think of Apple's music quality?

Im referring to guys with a decent setup amp or headphones.
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I have to say that I haven't directly compared it to anything and I've been on the iTunes Match wagon for a while so I've become pretty used to iTunes Plus as the default quality.

Pretty happy with it in general on my Ultimate Ears but I do find I need to equalize it a little bit, but then I pretty much always do with anything. I have noticed on a song or two that it distorts at peak, which could be a recording problem (I've had it on Lossless files straight from CD before) or could be my earphones but I doubt that highly.

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One thing I really find lacking with Apple Music is a "Just play ****" option.

I literally mean a quick button to press and let it play anything at me without me needing to choose stuff. Often I find that selecting the initial song to get the ball rolling is what takes the longest for me and actually when I'm not dedicated to listening I'll just not bother at all.
 
I have Apple music and Tidal on my iPhone at present, finding Tidal more enjoyable to listen to than Apple Music.
Apple music sounds very for want of a better work Brash and loud and iv have tried to fiddle with settings.

I ran a 256kbs Apple music song through spectral analyser and compared Tidal song at 1117kbs, same song but spectral analyser reported many differences, songs where form the same album and not "remastered"

Im trying to tell myself there's little to no difference and in current music i can hardly tell BUT 70,80,90's music I can tell theres a difference which sucks as i want to like Apple music.
 
Hemps said:
I have Apple music and Tidal on my iPhone at present, finding Tidal more enjoyable to listen to than Apple Music.
Apple music sounds very for want of a better work Brash and loud and iv have tried to fiddle with settings.

I ran a 256kbs Apple music song through spectral analyser and compared Tidal song at 1117kbs, same song but spectral analyser reported many differences, songs where form the same album and not "remastered"

Im trying to tell myself there's little to no difference and in current music i can hardly tell BUT 70,80,90's music I can tell theres a difference which sucks as i want to like Apple music.
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Have you got the Sound Check feature enabled in Settings > Music?
 
SauRoNZA said:
Have you got the Sound Check feature enabled in Settings > Music?
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Tried enabling it and then disabling it.
Found that disabled it sounds fine but still not as great as Tidal but then again a "lossless" song should sound better than a 256kbs song.
I still think apple should let us choose if we want lossless or not even if we can't really tell the difference.

Next test I'll try Apple music on my iPad 3 as it still has iOS 8.4 on it, hoping it's an iOS 9 beta issue.
 
Presumably you are on WiFi and not 3G?

I believe Apple drops the quality over 3G to save bandwidth.
 
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