Apple smartwatch to include NFC: report

[Rocket-Boy]

So apple slated NFC as useless and now they are using it?
Sounds about normal.

 

[bwana]

So apple slated NFC as useless and now they are using it?
Sounds about normal.

When did they slate NFC for being useless?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

When did they slate NFC for being useless?

There in an old Indian saying. 'For the intelligent, only a hint is required' . By not even including disabled NFC chips in their most recent batch of phones, I think most of us kind of got the hint.

With their continuous punting of passbook, and when apple senior VP Phil Schiller was asked about the exclusion of NFC in the 5s and 5c, he said "Passbook does the kinds of things customers need today." I think those

That my 3 year old BlackBerry cheapie has NFC hardware and the $850 iphone i buy today doesn't , yet is now being adopted is either very shortsighted by them or dishonest of them to say the least

 

[Fulcrum29]

There in an old Indian saying. 'For the intelligent, only a hint is required' . By not even including disabled NFC chips in their most recent batch of phones, I think most of us kind of got the hint.

With their continuous punting of passbook, and when apple senior VP Phil Schiller was asked about the exclusion of NFC in the 5s and 5c, he said "Passbook does the kinds of things customers need today." I think those

That my 3 year old BlackBerry cheapie has NFC hardware and the $850 iphone i buy today doesn't , yet is now being adopted is either very shortsighted by them or dishonest of them to say the least

Why do you think did Apple purchase AuthenTec in 2012?

Yes, they did punt Passbook as a mobile payment application in a market where only 2% in the entire global market participated by equipping with NFC reader terminals. As I mentioned earlier, Apple was patenting and developing NFC systems since 2010 and you call them short-sighted, why dishonest?

When they did answer the question on NFC:

And why not? "Passbook does the kinds of things customers need today," Apple vp Phil Schiller told AllThingsD

Let me quote the article:

http://www.cnet.com/news/no-nfc-for-you-iphone-5-heres-apples-explanation/

One iPhone 5-related product announcement not on Wednesday's agenda was any mention of near-field communication, the wireless technology which facilitates payments and short-range data transmissions.

And why not? "Passbook does the kinds of things customers need today," Apple vp Phil Schiller told AllThingsD this afternoon.

He also offered a few digs at wireless charging systems, questioning the amount of convenience they offer users.

"Having to create another device you have to plug into the wall is actually, for most situations, more complicated," Schiller said.
This is more than a case of "not invented here." CNET months ago chronicled the limitations of Near Field Communication, which have become a serious bottleneck, whether for infrastructure deployed in stores or compatible phones. My CNET colleague Maggie Reardon noted that although the technology has been around for a while and works fine, its use as a payment technology also requires a broad ecosystem. "But any devices need to be equipped with tiny NFC chips," she pointed out. "And terminals at the point of sale must also be equipped to read the information from the NFC chips installed in devices. The second big problem is that there are still business issues centering around who controls the customer via the NFC technology that's embedded in the device."

That also presents an opportunity for Apple to pull ahead of Google in the race to turn phones into digital wallets, one of the holy grails of the last few years. At the very least, it should make things more interesting.

Here Apple is, with a NFC patented library, a NFC-chip developer and semiconductor, and enabling more potential to NFC in the commercial environment as mentioned by me in relation with POS. Now it is being launched by Apple and will most likely be driving the NFC market.

When you required NFC, why did you purchase Apple?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

I didn't, the last device I have of theirs I purchased was a 4s which I am perfectly happy with, as nothing in the next 2 iterations have any 'must have' features.

I say dishonest OR shortsighted because their most recent and top end devices have no integrated NFC hardware. If they decided from the beginning not to go NFC and have now changed their minds that would be short sighted. If however they knew they were going NFC shortly and recently released devices without the simple NFC hardware, thereby forcing people to buy new devices... That would be dishonest as NFC is not that new

 

[Ricard]

HAHAHA... Apple innovation. Apple has Nokia to thank for the NFC stuff, Apple also has to thank the Nokia marketing people for being useless at their jobs.

http://lumiaconversations.microsoft.com/2012/04/11/nokias-nfc-phone-history/

Nokia 6131 NFC – 2007

This was the first phone to have ever been created with NFC technology built in. This flip (clam shell) phone was able to interact with other NFC equipment right out of the box. With the Nokia 6131 NFC, users were able to make purchases, access mobile services, or even use their phone as a travel ticket.

First USA usage of the Nokia 6131 NFC was carried out in New York with Citi, MasterCard and AT&T. While at the same time in in several cities across China, the Nokia 3220 with NFC Shell and the 6131 NFC were being used for ticketing and payment systems.

Back in Europe, one of the major Austrian mobile networks, Mobilkom started selling the Nokia 6131 NFC. Users could expect to be able to pay for items, use their phone as a ticket on travel systems and pay for parking in car parks just by tapping their phone against a reader.

In London from late 2007 heading into 2008, 500 Londoners were given a Nokia 6131 NFC that enabled them to use their phone as an Oyster Card on the travel network and also pay for items as if the phone was a debit card.

 

[genetic]

Apple have generally been a generation or two behind real phones - fair enough - but to flaunt that their next generation phone will have NFC 5 years after the world has had it is kinda embarrassing :/

If I was Apple, I'd rather have been silent about it

This. NFC has been a mainstay on most Android devices for years already.