Are all Diesels like this?

Neuk_ said:
There has always been a stigma around diesels being for 'commercial' and not passenger use. That started to change with the MkIV Golf platform using the VE110 1.9 TDi engine which was quieter, more efficient and drove better than the older diesel engines. I don't think diesel engines cost that much more to produce than similar petrol engines, some parts like the block, crank, conrods, etc. need to be 'beefier' due to higher low end torque but they don't need to be designed to handle high loads at high rpm.

As for biodiesel, there is a lot of it overseas in North America and Europe, not so much in Africa unless you have the means to make it yourself. Having said that, it isn't the bee's knee's it is made out to be, sure it is made from sustainable crops but it takes a massive amount of land to make it.
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what I heard about Diesel engines is due to the fuel combusting with pressure and not a spark, the block needs to be made a lot thicker to withstand years of heavy operation, and why Diesel has always been used in applications requiring reliability and not much speed, for instance a Truck engine or a Generator or a Marine engine,

maybe I'm wrong in thinking that, but then why add the complexity of a turbo in the first place? unless they add turbos to made it usable in a passenger vehicle, as without a turbo its simply not usable for a small vehicle.
 
InternetSwag said:
Hi all, recently drove a Diesel for the first time, was a Volkswagen Caddy Panel Van 2.0 TDI, not sure the year, but it had a touch screen which surprised me.

I was expecting it to suck, had to use it to transport some bulk stock items. But I actually loved it lol, it felt really responsive and 'powerful'. I googled it after and found it only has 81kw, which is not a lot. But it felt way more powerful than any of my cars. Granted I've never driven anything fast.

I didn't push the van at all, don't think I went over 3000 RPM, but it redlines at 5000 RPM so maybe that plays a role?

Anyways, the price of said van also made my eyes water when I googled it. But the driving experience was great. I was sitting at 125 km/h on the N1 and could feel it had much more to give.

Is this just a diesel thing? If yes, I can definitely see the appeal.
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Wait till you see how far you get on a tank of fuel ... orgasmic ;)
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
what I heard about Diesel engines is due to the fuel combusting with pressure and not a spark, the block needs to be made a lot thicker to withstand years of heavy operation, and why Diesel has always been used in applications requiring reliability and not much speed, for instance a Truck engine or a Generator or a Marine engine,

maybe I'm wrong in thinking that, but then why add the complexity of a turbo in the first place? unless they add turbos to made it usable in a passenger vehicle, as without a turbo its simply not usable for a small vehicle.
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Basically, diesel combusts under high pressure and temperature, which creates a more complete burn and higher force on the top of the piston. A result of this is a need for increased strength of parts of the engine to handle this higher force but also that a diesel engine cannot rotate at a high rpm like a petrol as the combustion process needs more time. It is only really passenger diesels that redline at 4,500 rpm or there about, most of your commercial diesels are used at around 1,500 rpm with large marine diesel in the low hundreds of rpm. The low end torque of a diesel is what makes them attractive for commercial use as it is torque that you need to haul heavy loads and the low rpm is what makes diesel engines last on average longer then petrol ignoring catastrophic failures.

Turbo's are actually very simple in connect but have become complex in application, with things like VNT, twin scroll, etc, etc. A turbo, simply, adds more air which allows more furl which allows for more force, in either diesel or petrol applications. This allows a smaller engine for a similar output of a larger engine which does not have a turbo. Most diesel engines these days have a turbo as it is an efficient way to get more air in rather than using a larger engine which costs more to build, takes up more space, is heavier and less efficient.
 
This is exactly why No one should still be buying NA cars. They got zero power, rather save yourself the frustration and buy a turbo charged car Petrol/diesel it doesn't matter.
 
Bliksis said:
Diesel sedans drive fantastic, and I would love to have one again but it will have to be new with full warranty. If they start giving trouble, cancel holidays and major plans :ROFL:
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I have a 2008 1.9 TDI Jetta, still going strong.

A couple of months ago I noticed oil sprayed in the engine. Ask my mechanic about it and he said "oh looks like the turbo's oil"
My heart sank into my feet.
but he changed it, replaced the seals and all is well again :)
 
To be fair though there was that one "documented" case of an oke here that wanted to buy a Kia Stinger & test drove the SSS & was so moved he bought that instead of the Stinger!

Sidenote I miss @pinball wizard o_O :confused:
 
FiestaST said:
To be fair though there was that one "documented" case of an oke here that wanted to buy a Kia Stinger & test drove the SSS & was so moved he bought that instead of the Stinger!

Sidenote I miss @pinball wizard o_O :confused:
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Datsun SSS

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Neuk_ said:
Datsun SSS

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lol no, the "modern one".

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I drove an Audi Avant with the 1.9Tdi, it’s a huge car and it shunted, it was awesome to drive and 6L/100km economy not hard to get. I almost bought it but the aircon was broken and it was R20k to fix. German + diesel is probably not a great financial decision.
 
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