Are other operating systems ever going to catch up with Linux?

MacLindroid said:
As an old Windows user, I have always been using OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and other portable applications on a flash drive.

With Windows moving towards an online-only solution in future, on a monthly or annual subscriptions base, I find that hanging on to Windows lost its appeal. Mac users buy MS Office, so what's the point with Mac? Both Windows and Mac have become expensive platforms for running FOSS applications.

Regardless of the million and a quarter other logical reasons to be using Linux only, it comes bundled with what everyone needs and then some, add to that the extensive applications repositories.

By design, not by market share, it is practically immune to malware as well. It asks little and delivers much, as it can run on older hardware with aplomb.

One really needs to ask whether the other OS's are still relevant for the right reasons, or are they like Hotel California where you can check out but never leave? Dear old John Dvorak wrote a piece recently, asking if Linux came too late. After having read all his arguments, I can say that we need to realise that there is a naked king, with tailors sewing with imaginary thread, to try and piece together a worn robe called Proprietary.

Like Dvorak, one can ask the question: did they overstay their welcome? Does it still make sense to buy expensive proprietary software and systems that seemingly fail after every next update?

Linux rose to maturity, from an ugly duckling to a graceful swan, the leader of the flock. Linux ballets on the world's supercomputers, it runs on millions of servers, it powers millions of networked or stand-alone desktop units. Linux is a liberation of the mind, unshackling the user experience from bondage to freedom.

From my perspective, Linux did not come to the party too late. Perhaps it is just above the mental reach of the majority out there, as the only logical, sensible operating system today is Linux. I also want it on my tablet and my phone, as my TV, VCR, PVR, microwave and even the car's "black box" runs it in various formats.

Refresh your cyber mind with a breathe of cool Mint!
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Bit late to this here linux party, but always good to start a Friday morning with a good laugh.
 
Most "big" OS executives not actually knowing the first thing about what they are peddling... it's no surprise that all we get are dumbed down messes that try to control every single thing you do with what is supposed to be your pc. They have no idea what they are doing and yet they want to keep absolute control... Screw them. Linux has a proper CLI and a backend that is totally independent of the GUI fss... how is this rocket science for stability? And it automatically avoids any win8 kind of embarrassment.

The only use windows actually has anymore is games and this is slipping away fast with the looming "AAA" fall, the rise of indie and then the kickstarter revolution basically saved the industry from total disgusting mediocrity IMO.

TBH at first I was nervous about so much regular CLI usage at first but it got to be incredibly comfortable. My only gripe with Linux (which is probably what has a lot of people avoiding it I think) is it's utter dependency on repositories. Yes it cuts down on total download sizes but what if the internet goes down for a month and you want to install something offline but some random dependencies cannot be met?

Lastly FU lenovo, useless lazy... make proper linux apps/drivers too ffs.
 
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Basically its somebody ranting about a topic they have sweet FA clue about if you ask me.
 
MacLindroid said:
Yes, Microsoft is heading towards a US$19-95 monthly subscription and most or all MS apps will become cloud-only. It could cause problems for people in faraway places.

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Source? or are we getting excited over hearsay
 
Ipwn 4 said:
Source? or are we getting excited over hearsay
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There is no source for that in the slightest...

MS are pushing towards online subscription based services, as well as the standard standalone desktop/server based systems... they don't see one replacing the other.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Basically its somebody ranting about a topic they have sweet FA clue about if you ask me.
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If you mean me it was basically a big "no the other OS's are never ever going to catch up to Linux"... I fail to see how it cannot be seen though...
 
rambo919 said:
If you mean me it was basically a big "no the other OS's are never ever going to catch up to Linux"... I fail to see how it cannot be seen though...
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Really?

Thats the line you're going to go with? Why then is Linux languishing at about 1.5% of the Desktop OS share then? If it was so amazing and good and all that surely everyone would be using it.

You also don't really understand the underlying stuff of Windows if your complaint is about the lack of CLI in windows. Go and play with powershell, pretty much every major MS product now relys on Powershell to actually run, the GUI is for all intents and purposes a skin on top of that CLI.
 
You are watching the wrong race mate, technical quality is rarely democratic. The whole IT industry is geared towards Microsoft first Apple second and now Google third. People mostly are either lazy or just not technically literate enough to even think about doing it any way other than everyone around them tells them to do it. Add to that the fact that even the people with internet mostly don't know how to use it properly and you have a "just stick something on the machine that makes everything work so I don't have to think about that" mentality... The world's Desktop OS share can never be completely accurately measured anyway, it's neither logically or physically possible.

As for Powershell, if the GUI freezes how do you access CLI without a reboot? Also what other GUI than the standard is supported without a kinda-dodgy third party app that probably only hacks the main GUI anyway?
 
Dude, I don't necessarily disagree with you that Linux is in some ways technically superior to things like Windows, but to rubbish the executives of the companies developing these products, and saying they're dumbing everything down just makes you look like a rabid fanboi who has no clue about reality.

MS have made billions, Apple have made billions, Google have made billions... they cater to the market, and what the market actually wants, whilst still pushing the boundaries that they can.
 
And here I thought that by now it was a known fact that most executives and managers know nothing about the product's they "make", regarding games most of these geniuses demand that games are made in such a way that it looks good to watch someone play it instead of making it good to play yourself because they themselves never actually play... anything. Mostly this has been talked about when it comes to games but it's true enough with everything else, how else could anyone have thought it's a good idea to treat a PC like a tablet?

I admit I might be generalizing too easily but nothing from the "big" companies in the last few years has done anything to show me otherwise. And yes I am rather biased against any system that "sells" you something that it can pull whenever it feels like it, valve has been close to that in the past but not yet really been a perpetrator of it, iTunes being the easiest example.

So no I am no fanboi, just paranoid and easily irritated by anyone thinking they have any right to control anything I do on my own damn PC. And yes this automatically disqualifies most consoles but only because all of them share the customer=drone model.
 
rambo919, you should stick to guns & knives as you come across as an egit, this coming from a 10yr linux user.
 
Well I'm so friggin glad for you and your objectivity. If it were completely true though you would not have felt the need to insult me for not caring even a little bit about what works for you. Either refute my "nonsense" directly or kindly shut your trap... "sir".

EDIT: you know what nvm, i forgot how civil the pleasant people here are, I'll just shut up now, congratulations, you win, whoohoo
 
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I apologize for my embarrassingly childish loss of temper, my point still stands though. Refute my argument not my character, there is no excuse for getting personal.
 
rambo919 said:
Most "big" OS executives not actually knowing the first thing about what they are peddling... it's no surprise that all we get are dumbed down messes that try to control every single thing you do with what is supposed to be your pc. They have no idea what they are doing and yet they want to keep absolute control... Screw them.
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And you know this because you've met these people and are qualified to judge them?

Just to illustrate how far from reality you are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avie_Tevanian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Serlet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Federighi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Sinofsky

Would like to put your qualifications against theirs?

rambo919 said:
Linux has a proper CLI and a backend that is totally independent of the GUI fss... how is this rocket science for stability?
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Do you think that makes it unique?

rambo919 said:
TBH at first I was nervous about so much regular CLI usage at first but it got to be incredibly comfortable. My only gripe with Linux (which is probably what has a lot of people avoiding it I think) is it's utter dependency on repositories.
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Linux has no future as a desktop OS. For servers it is the best choice, but design by committee is death especially for user interaction design.
 
I don't agree that Linux is the best server os. It's the cheapest and more appropriate solution for many applications such as a web server or file server(although Windows is also very good at this). It's not the best for LDAP and for RDMS systems.

This is why you often find most large companies have a mix of Windows and Unix.
Most will use Windows to manage users and mail mainly because its a better fit with their desktops where Windows is the most popular. Companies with a heavy .net use will be better off using Windows server to host their web sites. Most Oracle shops use Unix, despite Oracle themselves pushing their Linux.
 
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