Are other operating systems ever going to catch up with Linux?

[zippy]

I don't agree that Linux is the best server os. It's the cheapest and more appropriate solution for many applications such as a web server or file server(although Windows is also very good at this). It's not the best for LDAP and for RDMS systems.

This is why you often find most large companies have a mix of Windows and Unix.
Most will use Windows to manage users and mail mainly because its a better fit with their desktops where Windows is the most popular. Companies with a heavy .net use will be better off using Windows server to host their web sites. Most Oracle shops use Unix, despite Oracle themselves pushing their Linux.

 

[Bar0n]

Source? or are we getting excited over hearsay

I asked for a source many pages ago. Never got it. Or perhaps it was from linuxjihadists.com ?

EDIT: first page actually: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...with-Linux?p=13474296&viewfull=1#post13474296

 

[ponder]

Refute my argument not my character, there is no excuse for getting personal.

You are correct, apologies.

 

[ponder]

Just to illustrate how far from reality you are:

Study of S&P 500 CEOs reveals the most widely held degree by CEOs is in engineering.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ceos-majored-in-engineering-2011-3
http://www.arecentstudy.com/studies/S&P 500 CEOs.pdf

 

[rwenzori]

Some of us 1.5 billion Windows users don't care much about operating systems. It's apps and data that matter. And so far there's no compelling reason to switch.

Nor to switch to Win8 or Win10 then.

 

[Arthur]

True. Or even Win7. Which is why hundreds of millions of WinXP users, many now with iPads, merrily tap and click with little thought of the OS. Familiarity breeds content.

My guess is that a very large portion of those will simply buy new hardware in the next year, and end up with Win10 anyway, not because they actively choose it but because it's not disruptive. Their view of the PC OS is much like my view about the file system on my car's ECU.

 

[me_]

As for Powershell, if the GUI freezes how do you access CLI without a reboot? Also what other GUI than the standard is supported without a kinda-dodgy third party app that probably only hacks the main GUI anyway?

Windows Server has come with a Core edition for a little while now. It has no GUI. All access is through the CLI and Powershell remoting.
We don't use it because it's faster to troubleshoot using the GUI and we haven't had an unrecoverable GUI freeze since Windows Server 2003...

 

[irBosOtter]

We have two linux servers, the other 103 servers are all Win2008R2/2012R2 servers. I would say when is Linux going to catch up with MS lol

 

[Turbo_Aspiration]

Yes, I know how that works, but what the security scribe said was that the part given to NSA held the "DNA" of the entire thing, allowing the encryption to be reversed. It can be done because the underlying technology has a number of fields (whatever) that are all the same for both public & private keys. It somehow makes it easier to be 'reversed'.

I don't think you "know how that works".

The "DNA" of the method is well known. The relative strength of encryption systems is not in the algorithm, it's in the way encryption keys are generated and transmitted.

 

[zippy]

Windows Server has come with a Core edition for a little while now. It has no GUI. All access is through the CLI and Powershell remoting.
We don't use it because it's faster to troubleshoot using the GUI and we haven't had an unrecoverable GUI freeze since Windows Server 2003...

Linux needs CLI because its GUI implementation is so crap.

And why its a total fail in the desktop market.

 

[Joker]

Linux is great. Still doesn't do gaming as well as Windows though. Valve is trying to change that, but it still isn't the same.

Yup, this has and always will be the only real reason I continue to run windows

 

[ginggs]

Linux needs CLI because its GUI implementation is so crap.

Linux has a GUI implementation?

 

[Spliffcat]

Loaded Mint onto my GF 5 year old laptop, no bsd no hangs nothing still going like a demon. She does not shut down just slams the lid closed or pulls out the power cable. Runs dvds where windows could not. Windows would have died long time ago. Modem plug it in and it works no bloatware or crapola. Linux is light years ahead of windoze.

 

[GreGorGy]

Loaded Mint onto my GF 5 year old laptop, no bsd no hangs nothing still going like a demon. She does not shut down just slams the lid closed or pulls out the power cable. Runs dvds where windows could not. Windows would have died long time ago. Modem plug it in and it works no bloatware or crapola. Linux is light years ahead of windoze.

In which direction? Towards the galaxy, the sun, where?

 

[Spliffcat]

I dual boot Kali Linux and Windows 7 which is only used to play games. Everything else is on Kali. If one does not play games Linux is it.

 

[noxibox]

Loaded Mint onto my GF 5 year old laptop, no bsd no hangs nothing still going like a demon. She does not shut down just slams the lid closed or pulls out the power cable. Runs dvds where windows could not. Windows would have died long time ago. Modem plug it in and it works no bloatware or crapola. Linux is light years ahead of windoze.

Why would Windows have died long ago? What's different about just closing the lid of the laptop on Linux versus Windows?

Linux needs CLI because its GUI implementation is so crap.

And why its a total fail in the desktop market.

It's problem is that there is no standard GUI integrated into the OS.

 

[zippy]

Why would Windows have died long ago? What's different about just closing the lid of the laptop on Linux versus Windows?


It's problem is that there is no standard GUI integrated into the OS.

Doesn't have to be. OS X has an excellent gui. Solaris Desktop is also pretty good.

 

[Bar0n]

 

[untruly_yours]

I have been using Linux since 2011 and have not experienced any major issues. I still use Windows 7 at work and honestly feel my home setup is better.

 

[porchrat]

The only reason I don't install Linux on my current laptop is because it is new and I don't want the manufacturer using it to weasel out of honouring the warranty. The minute the warranty is up I'm dual booting at least if not wiping Windows off entirely.

I've been using Linux for nearly 10 years now and frankly I can't work on a Windows platform like I can on Linux.

That isn't to say that Windows is bad. It is a perfectly acceptable OS for most standard tasks and there is no denying that if you are into games in any big fashion then Windows is the superior platform. It is just that I am personally more comfortable with Linux.

I do think Linux is too unfairly regarded as an enthusiast's OS, where everything needs constant attention and one needs a deep understanding of how the machine works. These days there are plenty of offerings like Ubuntu that package Linux in a user friendly easy to operate form that works out of the box. That and with those user friendly flavours one can do pretty much anything using GUIs with no real need to resort to the shell which I know is a daunting idea for new users.