Are you considering emigration?

Are you considering emigration? If so, where would you like to go?

  • North America

    Votes: 45 10.4%

  • South America

    Votes: 5 1.2%

  • UK

    Votes: 43 10.0%

  • Europe

    Votes: 73 16.9%

  • Elsewhere in Africa

    Votes: 9 2.1%

  • Asia

    Votes: 18 4.2%

  • Australia

    Votes: 27 6.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 7.6%

  • I have already left

    Votes: 40 9.3%

  • I'm not going anywhere

    Votes: 139 32.2%
  • Total voters
    432
As I said before I will be here until they loot my life....


Mainly because the exams are expensive, I'm too lazy to study again and I do not want to start at the bottom and be an intern to some noob in the first world.
 
Have British citizenship, So sending money out but staying here as long as possible as UK way of life is sh*t
 
The good thing about SA is there is alot of space.

Most of these first world cities are so densely populated is madness and horrible to life in
 
Grieta Thanburg said:
I have given it a lot of thought in the past. Over here things spiral downward, mostly due to the lack of maintenance and incompetence combined with corruption. I know it will get a lot worse before it gets better, if it all.

With that said, I have a couple of friends in the EU and some family in Australia, and even they have their own problems. It's a different kind of problems, but still problems. No country is perfect.

These specific ones are quite scary to read

www.bbc.com

Why Dutch farmers are protesting over emissions cuts

Farmers say proposals to cut livestock and reduce intensive farming unfairly target their industry.
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www.reuters.com

Tractors roll into Brussels in farmer protest over plans to limit nitrogen emissions

Farmers from Belgium's northern region of Flanders drove thousands of tractors into Brussels on Friday in a protest against a new regional government plan to limit nitrogen emissions.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

This begs the question, how far will they push in the name of climate, and at what cost?

All I'm saying is some first world governments seem to be a little too authoritarian for my taste, and I will likely not have the same freedom there as I have here.
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It seems as though you are weighing up some borderline fictional (or at least, waaaay out out of the everyday concern of most residents of these countries), against the very real concerns South Africans have to deal with every day. I've lived in the US for over 20 years, and have yet to hear anyone I've met bemoan (or even mention, for that matter) the destruction of the nuclear family.

You say that no country is perfect, but that's a straw man - people are seeking improvement, and nobody expects perfection. Even the term "greener" is relativistic.
 
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cguy said:
It seems as though you are weighing up some borderline fictional (or at least, waaaay out out of the everyday concern of most residents of these countries), against the very real concerns South Africans have to deal with every day. I've lived in the US for over 20 years, and have yet to hear anyone I've met bemoan (or even mention, for that matter) the destruction of the nuclear family.

You say that no country is perfect, but that's a straw man - people are seeking improvement, and nobody expects perfection. Even the term "greener" is relativistic.
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What always puzzles me is how one or two 'scary' articles about a slow-moving disaster in a foreign country, which in all likelihood will resolve itself, somehow manages to convince people to stay put and rather deal with the tangible collapse back home.
 
6174 said:
I am considering Dubai, our skill is in high demand and the pay is not bad at all.
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UAE does sound good but you have to be prepared to come back. The issue with UAE (and much of Asia in general) is that foreigners are not accepted as citizens unless under very exceptional circumstances so you usually have to leave once your job ends.
 
chuckles_the_cnt said:
Egypt is diarrhea
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The treatment of women in Egypt is truly shocking. I went there a few years ago and three women I met were harasssed in some form (taxi drivers groping, guys peeking into their rooms to watch them dress etc).

This was also in a tourist hotspot so I can imagine it is worse everywhere else.

As a man, the experience was fine.
 
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Napalm2880 said:
My problem with emigrating is that you're effectively hitting the reset button on your life. Sure South Africa is circling the drain and is well on it's way to become 'another african country' but it's actually kinda nice here if you don't read news24.
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It's great.
You know when you are starting a new open world game, and in the beginning you go through the exploration phase and how fun it is? You learn how the world works, the rules, the best shops for which items. When you emigrate you get to do that in the real world.
 
Superman-7 said:
What always puzzles me is how one or two 'scary' articles about a slow-moving disaster in a foreign country, which in all likelihood will resolve itself, somehow manages to convince people to stay put and rather deal with the tangible collapse back home.
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Fear of the unknown.
 
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