Are you going to keep using windows XP?

I only use Windows XP on one of those ancient pc's to download etc. But not so much anymore, Have a server dedicated to that now.
 
A while back, I had a win7 drive that was not mount - win7 saw it as RAW. I popped that drive into all sorts of machines but the one that saw the data for a recovery? XP!
 
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can you still install and activate xp after support has ended?

I run Peppermint Linux and dual boot into xp when I need Corel Draw.

Might have to reinstall some time in the future.
 
rwenzori said:
Thanks for the answer.

- on hardware, well, I have XP running fine on several systems with no issues, including an i5 and an i7, so I don't buy or need that
- on software, well, only MS stuff that they force not to run on older OSs - half of them with those dreadful ribbon things. My own programs run just fine.
- security features? Other than future lack of security updates, I don't see that. Do you mean like that ghastly UAC and Security Centre ( in XP - is it still in Win7 - I forget )?
- ease of use - rot! Troubleshooting? I don't have many troubles. The one thing it does do well is find drivers - I will give it that.
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Sorry, but there is really no reason to use a 13 year old os on new equipment. I'd rather run Linux, than Windows XP.

Linux offers better stability
Ease of use (to an extent)
Open source (you don't pay.)
Better security (if you get a virus on a Linux machine...)
Hardware support? Surely it will run like a charm on holder hardware

Really, If you are just avoiding Windows 7 due to the cost, just try linux. And if you have courage, try Windows 8.1.
 
10i said:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can you still install and activate xp after support has ended?

I run Peppermint Linux and dual boot into xp when I need Corel Draw.

Might have to reinstall some time in the future.
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When does it end? I activated yeaterday.
 
])ragon_\/oid;12466126 said:
Sorry, but there is really no reason to use a 13 year old os on new equipment. I'd rather run Linux, than Windows XP.

Linux offers better stability
Ease of use (to an extent)
Open source (you don't pay.)
Better security (if you get a virus on a Linux machine...)
Hardware support? Surely it will run like a charm on holder hardware

Really, If you are just avoiding Windows 7 due to the cost, just try linux. And if you have courage, try Windows 8.1.
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I have no fight with Linux really. Every 18 months or so I have another attempt to run Linux as a workable desktop OS, but give up for various reasons. ( Mint, Ubuntu, and my fave, Suse ).

Sure it is stable. So are XP and Win7.

Ease of use - not really. It sort of goes OK apart from never ever having got the screen resolution thing right if you change monitors. Then you want to run something different . Sometimes you have to compile this different program, and then things fall apart. Hundreds of dependencies: you let it all download: then the make file bugs out because it wants some obscure different version of something: or the compiler hits errors: and I don't have weeks to sort the errors out.

Ease of use part 2 - well, you mostly can't run your favourite applications from the world of Win. You can get somewhere, but not far, with Wine and Crossover, but you really have to go to native Linux apps, and a lot of them just are not as nice. And whatever office package you use, it is just not the dreaded but necessary MS-Office.

Open source - OK you don't pay, but I do not have the skills or time to go make that source into Rwenzori-Linux.

Security - OK too, but I don't get viruses or have hack attempts on my recreation PCS (XP) - I take precautions and do not install any old crap that catches my eye.

It is not a cost issue. And I have no intention of trying any Win 8.* again until I have my coffin prepared.
 
The only updates that my machines see from new XP installation is the .net 3.5 framework otherwise all other updates are turned off.

Microsoft turning off their updates won't make any difference. So I will keep using it until the hardware breaks. Then it will run in a VM in the replacement.

There is a lot of software that can't be updated or replaced - it is more cost effective to keep XP than to commission a custom replacement.
 
The last machine in the house with a XP install was the home computer. When that crashed (board failure) I used a spare Windows 7 license and carried on from there. Moving forward, I'll always put newer versions of Windows on my laptop and desktop for the inevitable improvements to battery life, multi-tasking and memory management. For everyone else, they remain on Windows 7 and will run it until their hardware dies or support ends in 2020, by which time they'd need to upgrade to something better anyway.

I run Windows 8.1 Update on my desktop and laptop and it's getting there in terms of UI design. My only complaint is that Windows is still sluggish even on good mechanical hard drives. It feels like they're making it slower on purpose to make users move to SSDs en masse.

And considering that the reasons why I stay with Windows are for familiarity, playing games and Office, there's not much scope for me to move to other platforms for now.
 
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We're running half a dozen XP machines in daily use. They work, they're reliable and most importantly, their kinks have been worked out.

When you're running a mix of software and hardware spanning three decades, you don't just give up on it, because getting something new to work properly will take hundreds of hours and thousands of Rands, and I just don't see any value in doing that in the foreseeable future.

noxibox said:
That's how it should be. It's not Microsoft's fault for instance that some compiler or other tool maker hasn't bothered to update their software, nor that some company still using XP has not done whatever they need to move off XP.
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Why should we move off XP. We bought it, we expect to be able to use it indefinitely. Microsoft didn't sell it with the warning: Only usable for 10 years.

HavocXphere said:
I don't see any reason. What can XP do that 7 can't?
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As an example, the HP Laserjet 2500 colour printer only has XP drivers. Again, HP didn't put a warning sticker on their printer: Scrap after 5 years whether you've printed 5 000 pages or 500 000 pages.
 
Mk786 said:
No! Am i the only 1 that didn't like xp?
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XP was great. The fact that MS refuses to support it, is an artificial restriction. Locking it down so that it's more secure, maybe running things through Sandboxie, not working in Admin account, using a Intrusion Prevention System, using ABP/NoScript in the internet browser and so on may prevent it from becoming obsolete in terms of security. As Win XP becomes less common, so will hackers concentrate less on it.
 
psion said:
Don't take this the wrong way but most of your reasons are naive.
Antivirus, especially not free ones, don't patch security holes. There are other ways to get viruses and free anti viruses don't catch all types of malware, the ones that usually "steal" your passwords especially.

I myself haven't run XP in years.
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Sorry, let me rephrase... I don't need security patches as security has never bothered me. I'm not saying my free anti-virus (AVG) will catch everything but the likely hood of me catching a virus that is too advanced/new for it to stop is VERY unlucky considering what I do with my PC, in other words, the likely hood of me getting mulware is VERY slim and the likely hood of me catching a virus and the virus getting past AVG leaves the probability at almost non existent. If by any means I contract a virus then I'll send my PC in for virus removal if a trial version of Kaspersky doesn't remove it.... It should be noted that I hardly do any banking on my PC and if a virus should get my password and username, I'll still be safe thanks to the token capitec gave me. Why I could even post my username and password with the token combination of this second (token password constantly changes every few seconds ) and I'll still be safe.

And to be fair, even if I had windows 8 will all the security patches and the best security suit in the world with sand boxing and the best 2 way fire wall. Set to the strictest and most secure rules....hackers could still get me... Remember Dexter? That malware went undetected for 2-3 years as it was Infecting the computers of oil merchants, they were its target and as I'm sure you know, they can afford the best and most expensive security. Nuff said
 
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Space_Chief said:
XP was great. The fact that MS refuses to support it, is an artificial restriction. Locking it down so that it's more secure, maybe running things through Sandboxie, not working in Admin account, using a Intrusion Prevention System, using ABP/NoScript in the internet browser and so on may prevent it from becoming obsolete in terms of security. As Win XP becomes less common, so will hackers concentrate less on it.
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Exactly.
 
I Run XP, windows 7 and ubuntu on different partitions on my home pc. XP has been a great OS but the problem will come when games and other programs stop working on it. Avast already throws out a warning on XP and games like Battlefield 4 just don't run on XP at all. Over time the big companies just wont support the OS and people on XP will be left behind as technology advances.

supersunbird said:
Just cant get Civilization (the first one) to work on Win 7 (32bit - don't even bother with 64bit) or even a Win XP VM. Works grand on a old laptop with Win XP, so win XP will stay (hope the laptop doesn't die soon) around in my house.
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If you want to play Civilization on windows 7 you just need to run it in DOSBOX. Simple google search or youtube video will be able to help you set it up and get things working.
 
Been dealing with "MsMpEng.exe - application error" the whole day on XP:mad:
Looks link the first of many issues to come.
 
mouks said:
Been dealing with "MsMpEng.exe - application error" the whole day on XP:mad:
Looks link the first of many issues to come.
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Got the same at work with Endpoint. Is freezing laptops and PCs, bloody frustrating as a user...
 
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