Are you preparing for a comming genocide?

[Sherbang]

Genocide Watch:

June 21 2011 – by Adriana Stuijt - Dr Gregory Stanton of GenocideWatch.org wrote me today that his organisation is upgrading South Africa to Stage 6 of genocide – when death lists are drawn up, propaganda targetting the target-groups distributed, groups are formed, attacks are starting to culminate in a full-out Genocide, and target groups forced into camps or marginal land sites . (Helpende Hand can tell you exactly where those camps are)… Stage 8 is denial of the genocide.

Stanton writes “Julius Malema must be removed as leader of the ANC youth league. He is a violent Marxist-racist. Just like Winnie Mandela. Genocide Watch wll upgrade South Africa to Stage 6 in the next week’.

Adriana Stuijt has no credibility whatsoever. I don't see anything like this on Genocide Watch itself and she is known to be a liar

 

[(@) (@) twister]

I'm quite sure land owners and big businesses will be visited first. Whether violent or not depends on how much longer they refuse to distribute wealth. If nationalising mines appeases pending genocide, I'm for it.

And after nationalisation when ANC have stolen everything and the masses got nothing, then they will still blame the whitey and you will still have your genocide... nice hey...

 

[unskinnybob]

Alot of emotional responses to a fair question posted by the OP.

I'd say, for genocide to start, in the words of Edmund Burke, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".

If you look at how the ruling party turns a blind eye to comments about "whites being thieves", nationalisation, the removal of property with no compensation and you consider the ruling party's municipal elections were won based on preaching fear of the minority race, I'd say you have a favourable climate. Add to that the state of the defence force and the amout of police brutality.

Look at the new instances of xenophobia. The flames of hatred toward Zimbabweans could be fanned into hatred towards others.

No country in the world prophesied genocide. A tribe/race/religion was targeted, alienated and in time it became acceptable to treat them as lesser people.

 

[3p1c]

oh my ...

 

[samuelp]

I don't seen any genocide coming anytime soon

The White Group growth rate is the highest of any other population group in SA (lot of Brits and Expats settle in SA every year)

 

[alpha777]

I don't seen any genocide coming anytime soon

The White Group growth rate is the highest of any other population group in SA (lot of Brits and Expats settle in SA every year)

lol yes samuelp

 

[chicken247]

Well, I thought of distributing tyres to lynch mobs or prescription pads to the intended victims but a leveraged pair trade might just be the answer! Thanks.

 

[The Philosopher]

the key idea that no one seems to grasp is that, wealth is not a set amount. So the concept of saying this sect has 10% and that has 15% all the time makes no sense. Instead one needs to increase total wealth by adding value. The way that happens is by starting your own farm or company. Then everyone's wealth will increase, and not some at another expense. Wealth redistribution is not the answer in addition to it being immoral and theft. Only in a free market where no government regulation prohibits market participation nor the creation and protection of monopolies will everyone wealth increase. That is the only way to fight poverty. The more you try to regulate wealth the more you enslave everyone in poverty.

Trying to convince the government of that, is another colossal task. This may never happen.

 

[Kimosabe]

Just saying.

 

[noxibox]

Wealth redistribution is not the answer in addition to it being immoral and theft.

Does that apply even when capitalists are doing it?

Only in a free market where no government regulation prohibits market participation nor the creation and protection of monopolies will everyone wealth increase.

Monopolies don't really need government protection.

 

[noxibox]

Just saying.

I wonder if that music will work?

 

[Lightscribe]

Many, many people are in your position. Some have nowhere else to go (even if they wanted to). Also many without burdens of responsibility are angry and outraged at discrimination and the destruction of SA. I straddle all worlds. I won’t leave. Something must be done. Ass kicking is in order. Bring it on.

Won't leave SA.
Got plenty of bullets and know how to use them.

Well said.

The reason why I mentioned China is that they were also involved in supporting some of the liberation movements, including the PAC, I believe.

pac is an anc offshoot. malema types. Google "poqo".

Or are simply to afraid to stand up to group that is willing to perform these actions.

Unfortunately, yes. That's why the anc relies on "low intensity warfare", as in the seemingly isolated cases of farm/urban torture/rape/killings, hoping the nation does not get pissed off enough to take action.

I'd prefer to be optimistic about the future, but I've got a plan if it goes down.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

Yep.

 

[Lightscribe]

Forgot about that. My moms uncle was a mercenary during that. He died there.

My father was a Military Police SGT there. "Only bad news on radio Africa..."

In the spirit of the OP, the only thing in my opinion that could possibly lead to genocide of some sorts would be the assasination of Malema, which I think is a very real concern. It's the only catalyst I can imagine that could result in the devolution of this country by revolt...

Like the genocide that happened after Hani's operation vula was made "vala"..? Genocide dates, decided by a Hani or a malema, makes not less of a genocide, than when the person is taken out...Malema has a choice and hiding behind "moderate" killer "tyre and matches" winnie, will not help him.

To be blunt, there are hell of a lot of poor black people and a hell of a lot of priviledged white people. We can debate and say white people are hardworking and educated and that's why they live the good life. We can blame the ANC's corruption for the poverty amongst the black population. That's all irrelevant to the poor masses. They want out of poverty and are angry at being left out in the cold by the few BEE ANC elites. So the poor will be quite happy to go from their shacks and into the suburbs and start killing "rich" people and stealing their stuff. The economy might collapse but you must remember that the only people who feel the impact of an economic collapse are well off people. Poor people won't feel the impact, so to them it will be good if rich people suffer like they are suffering.

Tell that to the starving masses.

Education should always be the absolute priority. It is the ONLY thing that can help make everyone's life better in the future

Well said.

I got a question kinda on topic. If a genocide does happen, do you think the international community will intervene like they did in Libya or ignore us like they did in Zimbabwe? Unlike Libya we don't have any oil

We're mostly on our own. More incentive to be non racial and thus destroy those who wish to divide us.

 

[Lightscribe]

Yip, I am preparing! It's gonna be a great time to make money, lots of opportunities.

hahaha! Contracting...oh those were the days...

If you are concerned about a genocide and can't leave the country come to Cape Town, nice views, good schools, and we "mostly" get along

Yep.

It is... why can't we go back to a day when the core topic of this forum was internet, and internet medium. This forum is really now about all the hand-picked ANC news and the agony aunt sections. No disrespect but long ago, all that was spoken about here was IT stuff and the utterings of ANC idiots didn't even register here.

So simply stick to the IT sections then. Why visit Current Affairs?

Geriatrix beat me to it.

In answer to the OP's post, im gone already. Just waiting on my wife to join me. Waiting on Spousal visa etc...

The tipping point for me was when I stepped back and truly looked at everything around me. Seeing contempt in other peoples' eyes just because I have a nice watch on. Having hawkers stare into my car through the window, assessing whether I am a good target for future smash and grabs or hijackings. Catching myself looking over my shoulder all the time, checking to see who the footsteps belong to and how intently they are following me. There are many other things, but those situations describe life in SA all the time.
It took me a long time to step back and realize that this was the life I was living. Its not about paranoia, or genocide. Its simply about quality of life. I realized that the quality of my own life was not at the level that I wanted it to be, and looking to the future, it never would be. Life is getting harder and harder in SA, too many people stubbornly defend the country out of some missplaced sense of loyalty or pride. People need to realize that life is going downhill there, downhill does not mean that genocide is at the bottom mind you. Just that life is getting more and more difficult, and less manageable, regardless of race.

Everyone has a different breaking point, some are pushed over the edge by a hijacking, murder, robbery, etc.... I just feel sad for the people that wait until they are slapped across the face with a reality check like that. Some people may be pushed over the edge when they look at starting a family and plan to the future, as I was. A major factor for me was looking at the quality of education that my child/ren would get. Also the chances of them being able to succeed in an AA driven society. I simply realized that I could not put my kids through that if I could help it.

My only hope is that people in SA are not holding on for the wrong reasons. Because if you are, the chances are high that you will find yourself or your loved ones on the wrong end of a violent crime, before you realize your mistake. And it will haunt you for the rest of your life.

Mmmm it's always been a horror story in SA. I also recommend young people of all races leave and build a better life for them and their new family elsewhere. "Here be monsters"---->

http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.com/2010/01/police-jail-rapes-of-white-sa-men-is.html

http://why-we-are-white-refugees.blogspot.com/2010/01/nongolozas-children-western-cape-prison.html Read it all... 1-5...

 

[Palimino]

Unfortunately, yes. That's why the anc relies on "low intensity warfare", as in the seemingly isolated cases of farm/urban torture/rape/killings, hoping the nation does not get pissed off enough to take action.

I have a different hypothesis. Because of ‘kulcharal’ differences and an ignorance of tolerances within democracy, tolerance is interpreted as weakness. Segments of the population want to see democracy work (proper democracy, not what the ANC fondly imagines democracy is). They do not want to appear to the international community like any other African nation – ‘regime change through the barrel of a gun’. However justified, this is how it will look. **Huge** toleration sacrifices have been made to this end (crime, murder, corruption, etc.). I do feel however, that the camels back is close to breaking.

“Let the cards fall where they may.”