Are you preparing for another hard lockdown?

Are you stockpiling?

  • Yes - the likelihood of a hard lockdown is high

    Votes: 100 30.2%

  • No - they wouldn't dare

    Votes: 231 69.8%
  • Total voters
    331
Brian_G said:
Agreed, I never said it was useless. Sadly though, it is highly manipulated which has been proved many times. And too much emphasis is put on testing, it only properly serves the purposes you just mentioned (in theory).
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Very true, guess thats just a consequence of the times. No body would take it seriously enough if you just told people "so theres a virus its very contagious so you're probably gna get it, but good news its only gna kill about 5% of you. So you should be fine but if you arent... unlucky"
 
UnusualNegotiation7 said:
Very true, guess thats just a consequence of the times. No body would take it seriously enough if you just told people "so theres a virus its very contagious so you're probably gna get it, but good news its only gna kill about 5% of you. So you should be fine but if you arent... unlucky"
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That's a nice, innocent idea about the why of the worldwide hype going on. Unfortunately it really is much more sinister than that though, with some thinking it's well meant "save the planet" mischief of sorts, and others thinking it's full out psychopathic enslavement. (BTW, some psychopaths are actually nice people though, we're talking about the most far gone here.)
 
LCBXX said:
No.
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So if something relatively well understood and with numerous treatments available can still infect 20% of the population why would you not need to worry about something spread easier and with no real treatment options available as of now?
 
UnusualNegotiation7 said:
So if something relatively well understood and with numerous treatments available can still infect 20% of the population why would you not need to worry about something spread easier and with no real treatment options available as of now?
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Too much cross-talk here, so methinks you're forgetting that it's not the high infection rate, it's the danger to any one individual. And that's very low with Covid-19.
 
Brian_G said:
It was explained many months ago by medical professionals in official statements that the LD approach can't stop this virus, only slow it down. It's now believed widely spread worldwiide. It is you who haven't bothered to learn what's going on.

But the LD is just a fear tool of what some are calling the death cult anyway.
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what is your point? you said exactly what I said? What is "worldwide" got to do with this?
just in case I was not clear to you.
The way to kill the virus is to to go into isolation until its gone (for one person) Therefore, if all go into lockdown, and I mean ALL, then we can kill it in 15 days or so.
Man I forgot about trolls. Haven't been on a forum in ages
 
Of course, if Cyril said they're not doing it you can bet your bottom dollar they're planning it in Lootfreely house
 
Just ordered 36 bottles of wine and 4 bottles of Whiskey, that's pretty much the only thing I missed.

I doubt we will go back to level 4, but 3 is possible - the ANC is not a very logical bunch
 
The_MAC said:
Just ordered 36 bottles of wine and 4 bottles of Whiskey, that's pretty much the only thing I missed.
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Good. Because they have shown us exactly how sneaky they can be.
Won't forget that Sunday night ban announcement :cautious:
 
Speedster said:
I don't believe much (if anything) coming from any politician's mouth. I do believe my friends working in our hospitals and clinics across the country though. I believe my colleague who had a heart attack during the first lockdown but wasn't able to be given an ICU bed as it was full. I believe my father-in-law who still has tremendous health struggles 4 months after he contracted Covid.
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Do you also believe all the people that have had serious after-effects from other viral infections?

Do you believe the vast majority of people who have had no after-effects at all?

There can't have been many beds to start with if they were all full.
 
Brian_G said:
Too much cross-talk here, so methinks you're forgetting that it's not the high infection rate, it's the danger to any one individual. And that's very low with Covid-19.
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You cant look at either of those stats in isolation since then they dont mean much. Low mortality rates and low infection rates make for low concern. High mortality but low infection rates also generaply lead to low concern (rabies as a good example). High infection rates and low mortality can lead to concern but depending on availability of treatments these can be controlled.. which is why people generally dont worry that much about things like cold and flu although numbers are in similar ballparks to covid atm... but the over arching issue with any of these is the capacity for treatment... yes covid isnt extremely deadly in the scenario that everyone that gets it can be given supportive treatment till they recover.. but in the case were there is no capacity to treat these people and they take up space for people who need treatment for other unrelated conditions thats when you have a disaster. So we cant look at figures in isolation since realistically they are not mutually exclusive
 
UnusualNegotiation7 said:
You cant look at either of those stats in isolation since then they dont mean much. Low mortality rates and low infection rates make for low concern. High mortality but low infection rates also generaply lead to low concern (rabies as a good example). High infection rates and low mortality can lead to concern but depending on availability of treatments these can be controlled.. which is why people generally dont worry that much about things like cold and flu although numbers are in similar ballparks to covid atm... but the over arching issue with any of these is the capacity for treatment... yes covid isnt extremely deadly in the scenario that everyone that gets it can be given supportive treatment till they recover.. but in the case were there is no capacity to treat these people and they take up space for people who need treatment for other unrelated conditions thats when you have a disaster. So we cant look at figures in isolation since realistically they are not mutually exclusive
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You make a lot of sense.

My last point for now - any equivalent condition, such as the more serious flu's of recent years, can lead to similar concerns, but haven't resulted in this psychotic-type nightmare of a world reaction.
There is proof that the hospital stats are also manipulated, such as in Italy where it was only the ICU's which were full for a while, and in areas where mostly older people live.
 
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