Article: EFF disappointed by racist messages

OrbitalDawn said:
Not necessarily. It's happened to the ANC and DA before, too. Where branches make their own posters/placards which aren't approved by the mother body.
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Yeah, this is true..

It just seems like posters that would not be done at a branch level, because that printing would not have been cheap, and I would be very surprised if EFF branches have the requisite money to do it...
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Not necessarily. It's happened to the ANC and DA before, too. Where branches make their own posters/placards which aren't approved by the mother body.
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But now the test is in accountability - will they pull an ANC or really hold the people responsible
 
STS said:
But now the test is in accountability - will they pull an ANC or really hold the people responsible
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not a chance.


It's like Zooma and Guptagate. He was the one giving orders. Same here... "Mother ship" knew but just turned blind eye...
 
ngwe23 said:
As a black man I was very disgusted by that banner, embarrassed even. :( I have to say that I expected a lot more people to be vocal about this. One can only imagine the out cry if FF had displayed a similar banner.
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I honestly don't think the FF are racist. They represent a specific constituency, but I've never seen them being blatantly racist or advocating any racist stuff.

Malema and his EFFers on the other hand... Par for the course.
 
ngwe23 said:
As a black man I was very disgusted by that banner, embarrassed even. :( I have to say that I expected a lot more people to be vocal about this. One can only imagine the out cry if FF had displayed a similar banner.
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Well ... I suppose the white population in SA do not believe that a genocide against us is possible and that it just wont happen. I sent those pics to my friend in the UK ... he was very upset and thinks Julias and his lemmings is a huge threat. I was feeling rather apathetic yesterday and said basically that if they come into power and wants to kill all us white people then that is what will happen I suppose. Not much that can be done about it. He went on to say that he is sure Europe, and specifically the UK will respond quick to such a thing happening. I cant say I feel the same.

Anyway ... who knows what will happen.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
I honestly don't think the FF are racist. They represent a specific constituency, but I've never seen them being blatantly racist or advocating any racist stuff.

Malema and his EFFers on the other hand... Par for the course.
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Never said they were...
 
Ockie said:
Well ... I suppose the white population in SA do not believe that a genocide against us is possible and that it just wont happen. I sent those pics to my friend in the UK ... he was very upset and thinks Julias and his lemmings is a huge threat. I was feeling rather apathetic yesterday and said basically that if they come into power and wants to kill all us white people then that is what will happen I suppose. Not much that can be done about it. He went on to say that he is sure Europe, and specifically the UK will respond quick to such a thing happening. I cant say I feel the same.

Anyway ... who knows what will happen.
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I dont know what you mean by "genocide". While anything is possible, I think a genocide is far fetched
 
Ockie said:
Well ... I suppose the white population in SA do not believe that a genocide against us is possible and that it just wont happen. I sent those pics to my friend in the UK ... he was very upset and thinks Julias and his lemmings is a huge threat. I was feeling rather apathetic yesterday and said basically that if they come into power and wants to kill all us white people then that is what will happen I suppose. Not much that can be done about it. He went on to say that he is sure Europe, and specifically the UK will respond quick to such a thing happening. I cant say I feel the same.

Anyway ... who knows what will happen.
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If Julias ever made president (highly doubt it).. I will sell and emigrate asap
 
ngwe23 said:
I dont know what you mean by "genocide". While anything is possible, I think a genocide is far fetched
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I think so too ... and so does most white people in SA I think ... but my friend is very worried. Perhaps because he does not live here anymore (he is British but lived in Cape Town for a few years) and have got a different perspective on things ... dunno. It must be said though that the Jews might have said the same thing. Perhaps the Tutsis said the same thing. Perhaps the white farmers in Zim also said them being kicked off their farms will never happen.

What will happen will happen I suppose.
 
Ockie said:
I think so too ... and so does most white people in SA I think ... but my friend is very worried. Perhaps because he does not live here anymore (he is British but lived in Cape Town for a few years) and have got a different perspective on things ... dunno. It must be said though that the Jews might have said the same thing. Perhaps the Tutsis said the same thing. Perhaps the white farmers in Zim also said them being kicked off their farms will never happen.

What will happen will happen I suppose.
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Correct, it would be stupid to dismiss anything in this world. Human begins are capable of evil beyond measure. You need only look at the examples that you have cited. But we should be careful not to succumb to undue fear as well.
 
Ockie said:
I might be wrong here .... but I doubt ordinary members would be going and having large professionally printed banners and placards made up. I doubt these members would be going and spending their own money on this. I am pretty sure this came from the mother ship.
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Eeee-yep!!! Seconded!
 
Ockie said:
Well ... I suppose the white population in SA do not believe that a genocide against us is possible and that it just wont happen. I sent those pics to my friend in the UK ... he was very upset and thinks Julias and his lemmings is a huge threat. I was feeling rather apathetic yesterday and said basically that if they come into power and wants to kill all us white people then that is what will happen I suppose. Not much that can be done about it. He went on to say that he is sure Europe, and specifically the UK will respond quick to such a thing happening. I cant say I feel the same.

Anyway ... who knows what will happen.
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Very true the UK and the US will do nothing ... I think however Germany wont let it slide due to the massive amount of Germans in the country.
 
Xino_sam said:
I second your thoughts here - if these where just made by members without the knowledge of the "mother ship", these posters would have been on some cut out cardboard.....
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I heard where the funding for the banners came from. I'll have a dig for it.

Edit: This bloke knows. He mentioned it on his twitter yesterday, something about "The funding for the banners came from" I forgot after that. I don't know Twitter at all and never used one, but the message looked like it came from Malema, had a Malema tag next to it.

https://twitter.com/Youngster_Cam

Have a dig around.
 
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This whole scenario is bizarre… Too many people generalise with racial demographics, today SA is a diverse interracial society. Should there be any genocide, it will be well met with resistance.
 
ngwe23 said:
As a black man I was very disgusted by that banner, embarrassed even. :( I have to say that I expected a lot more people to be vocal about this. One can only imagine the out cry if FF had displayed a similar banner.
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Malema's followers(ilk) only showed their true colours and their aspirations. Not too far off from the ANC agenda tho.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
This whole scenario is bizarre… Too many people generalise with racial demographics, today SA is a diverse interracial society. Should there be any genocide, it will be well met with resistance.
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Maybe so but surely do not expect it from the majority populace or the ANC cadres.
 
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