Article: Give back the land: EFF

joelus said:
Where does it say in that quote you gave that this excludes white people?
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You don't read, do you?

One, their statement starts with:

"Until land is returned, all else stands... in flux and can be misappropriated," said Economic Freedom Fighters spokesman Mbuyiseni Quintin Ndlozi in a statement.
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1) Who is to return this land, and what land?

and 2) I asked this question:

...what about people, like whites citizens, who don't own land in SA?
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Why don't you answer 1 and 2?
 
pension said:
The majority of land is not owned by blacks but by whites this is in a black majority country.
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Here you go, stop gobbling up the vote getting propaganda of the EFF and the like and read something sensible in the topic:

People who comment on land reform in South Africa would therefore do well to consider the following points: The first is that the amount of land in black hands is not 13% but may be as high as 50%. The second is that the 50% in white hands is held by South Africa's food producers and that their numbers are shrinking very quickly as urban markets demand ever more cost effective production methods. The third is that any policy that compromises the ability of those farmers to produce food may trigger a series of urban protests that the government may find difficult to control.
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Read the rest: http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politi...1619/page71639?oid=282525&sn=Detail&pid=71639

I also don't understand this need for everything to be fully representative of the countries demographics. Every team may have enough blacks. Every business must have enough blacks. Land must be owned by enough blacks.

And why does it stop at blacks only? Does that suit an agenda? Why not quotas on everything for every race, different sexes, religion, able bodied versus disabled, age demographics? Surely many of those were, and still are, disadvantaged too?

I see many black friends of mine struggling to pay rent or living in a rundown space. Whereas my white friends have home in rich suburbs and on the weekends go to the family farm

Btw these friends of mines are all CAs
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Really? Awesome generalisations as I see many white people battling to meet their expenses too. And every black person seems to have a farm to go back to. No doubt this is just a traditional dwelling in a rural area but still.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
You don't read, do you?

One, their statement starts with:



1) Who is to return this land, and what land?

and 2) I asked this question:



Why don't you answer 1 and 2?
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1) To the landless citizens - land that is currently not being utilized
2) No mention has been made of race, so why do you assume it excludes white South Africans?
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Are you saying that while all your buds are CAs, the whites gets paid more in an equal position?
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Theu earn the same but a white friend has a much higher standard of living due to being previously advanataged. Thats my point
 
pension said:
Theu earn the same but a white friend has a much higher standard of living due to being previously advanataged. Thats my point
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Crap...

If they earn the same, they have the same standard of living, unless one person is more intelligent with money and the other just gets themselves into debt.
 
joelus said:
1) To the landless citizens - land that is currently not being utilized
2) No mention has been made of race, so why do you assume it excludes white South Africans?
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I clearly asked, "Who is to return this land, and what land?" Who is to return land to the landless citizens?

Question 2 can only be answered until I know who is to return the land.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I clearly asked, "Who is to return this land, and what land?" Who is to return land to the landless citizens?

Question 2 can only be answered until I know who is to return the land.
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Clearly, current landowners - if you don't own land you can't return anything can you?
 
ToxicBunny said:
Crap...

If they earn the same, they have the same standard of living, unless one person is more intelligent with money and the other just gets themselves into debt.
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Clearly not. The white friends father buy his a car pays for his education gives him a home amongst other things. The black friend need to start anew with everything. Hence a completely different standard of living
 
joelus said:
Clearly, current landowners - if you don't own land you can't return anything can you?
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Who is this landowners who must return the land, say I purchased a property yesterday must I also return it back without any compensation?
 
Deadmanza said:
If current land owners need to return the land, that would make them a "Landless citizen", then you would need to be given land again...
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The eff have quite clearly stated that only land that is not being utilized must be returned and shared so that all citizens have access to land.
 
joelus said:
Only if you intend leaving it abandoned, not if you're using it...
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Clearly you didn't listen to the video I posted:

Here is the video:

http://youtu.be/zfIEhjEG8NQ

and this three part interview:

http://youtu.be/tFAcPb1ft4I
http://youtu.be/-nL4EKATG5c
http://youtu.be/ybOxN_eE2AM

The EFF clearly states that the land was stolen, and clearly states that the ANC allows the white people to steal the land. The people representing the EFF here are their leaders, listen to the video, all land since 1652 is stolen according to the EFF, calling white people land thieves.
 
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